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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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  Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Welding helmet? Too bulky  small bit of kit that will eventually find its way into a welding set up for the car Got a Shade 5 chinese welding goggles posted to my door from china ($2.70, 2.5 week wait) Got a Shade 13 glass insert that was the same dimensions from uk ($3.50 1 week wait) [   Glass had to be squared up a little with the rotary tool to fit the frame. The original plastic shadescreen retainer tabs on the frame had to be cut ground out. Some flexible glue was used to attach the moulded flexible outer part to the inner part more permantly (putting the goggles on and off resulted in it coming slightly undone) Shade 13 panel fits in snuggly, might get another lighter shade panel, 10 or 11. to avoid a welders tan i intend to go with a heavy cotton tshirt for the T-shirt Ninja mask*  *Also makes great guerilla/insurgent apparell eDITED TO UPDATE PHOTOS
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Shansh
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Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 1816 Location: Goulburn NSW
Vehicle: Ducati Monster
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:14 pm |
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and that is less fucking around than chucking an auto darkening welding helmet on, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..............
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:22 pm |
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Shansh wrote: and that is less fucking around than chucking an auto darkening welding helmet on, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.............. Do you keep an auto-darkening helmet in the car? Did it cost you less than six dollars? 
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Shansh
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Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 1816 Location: Goulburn NSW
Vehicle: Ducati Monster
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:35 pm |
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no, i guess not, but then again im not a ninja but i would have thought if you were going to the trouble if carrying a welding kit around a helmet wouldnt be that much of an issue to have on hand
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:41 pm |
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more of a glorified jumper lead set really and in a sierra space is a premium.
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jimmy91
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:49 am Posts: 385
Vehicle: 2012 jimny
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:57 pm |
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you can get a shit house helmet for $15 that won't catch fire. i wouldn't even consider this. i got a miller helmet when i was a apprentice paid 380 for it and its the best thing i did.
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:37 pm |
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jimmy91 wrote: you can get a shit house helmet for $15 that won't catch fire. i wouldn't even consider this. i got a miller helmet when i was a apprentice paid 380 for it and its the best thing i did. Are the $15 jobs the ones you hold up to your face with one hand and weld with the other? $380 is a good investment if you are building towards your tool set for a given trade. Its a lot to cop out for the odd thing every 6 months or so. I'll post photos if it works out in actual use. If not it cost me a beer at the pub. I frequently read that people do roadside welds with eyes shut... this has got to be a better solution. PHOTOS ADDED TO FIRST POST Not exciting but you guys get the idea
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sideways
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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5933 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:04 am |
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I would avoid having flammable stuff attached to your head whilst welding but other than that it sounds good. 
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mnemonix
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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:57 pm |
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Miller digital elite welding helmet is the single greatest investment I have made to date to improve my welding ability.
Had cheapo auto helmets prior to this. The change in visibility was amazing.
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:12 pm |
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mnemonix wrote: Miller digital elite welding helmet is the single greatest investment I have made to date to improve my welding ability.
Had cheapo auto helmets prior to this. The change in visibility was amazing. Are the "expensive helmets" auto adjusting, like set there own darkness level? Ive got a cig with all the adjustments but always forget to change the darkness when i change amperage 
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:18 pm |
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The expensive helmets are auto adjusting.
You set the fine adjustment, if you prefer a little brighter or darker, and the helmet will adjust how dark/bright depending on amperage.
Mine will auto set between 5-13, offers a grinding mode (basically old school flip window), and delay (how much flash you get).
You can also manually set which din you want, if you want to override the auto-mode.
Biggest thing, don't be tight with the lenses. As they get dirtier and dirtier it makes welding so much harder. When you put the new lense on, its like.. wow, its so clear, I can see, why didn't I do this before.....
I'm currently using a sperian optrel e680
The knobs on the side are a bit annoying, but the adjustments are good.
I prefer speedglas helmet design as their controls are on the inside (better protected).
Have tried a cigweld one, didnt impress me. Think it was pleb-spec.
Used to use a cheapo auto darkening, found it was random really dark, or bright. Was a real piece of shit. Id rather use the handheld or old-school helmets over the cheap auto-darkening ones.
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:42 pm |
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Do any helmets have control over how long they stay dark after the arc has stopped?
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jimmy91
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Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:49 am Posts: 385
Vehicle: 2012 jimny
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:59 pm |
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trypt i have the miller digital elite series in the lucky's speed shop design on it. mine switches off when you finish welding.
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Aferal
Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 51 Location: peaches
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:03 pm |
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Ninja welding mask ok idea for an emgency maybe,.
You can also get the crappy hand held visors thats flatish, roadside welding leads would roll up and fit in the mask. If your incable of welding with one hand put a bit of elastic on the welding visor to hold it too your head. Lot less chance of getting burned UV or hot metal and using the right gear for the job.
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