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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Ok so a mate and i did this the other day, we read quite a few things that were wrong about this conversion so this is required Things needed.. Mg410 4 speed box 1300 sierra 5 speed tools and a press (may not need press but made life easy) how to do it Pull both extension housings off and separate both gearbox's pull both gear sets out (may need press) then put the 1ltr input shaft onto the 1300 gear set and put the gear set back into the 1ltr housing. then punch the roll pins out of the selector forks in the 1ltr gearbox, slide them out (mind the detent balls) and put them aside. do the same for the 1300 rails. then put the 1300 rails into the 1ltr housings, be mindful to get them back right and get the detent balls back in. put the top back on the gearbox, be mindful to line up the shifter forks with the selector rings in the box, then put the 1300 extention housing on, place a shifter in and see if you have all your gears and it shifts! if it works, pull box back apart, add silicon, bolt back up and your done. Note.. this gives you better ratio's and a 5 speed you need to use the 1300 extension housing as the rails are longer and there is no prevision for the 5th gear bearing in the 1ltr housing Hopefully this helps. |
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| Author: | mrlj2u [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
How do you find the fifth gear ? Does the 1 litre handle it ok ? |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
i dont use it much as im running 34's but the first is defiantly much lower, and thats what i was trying to achieve |
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| Author: | jamiec [ Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
How is the 5 speed conversion going? Do you know if this will fit in the LJ80? Do you have any pics you could share with us? Thanks for any help Cheers Jamie |
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| Author: | sideways [ Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
The gearbox fits in the tunnel but you'l have to chop out the trans crossmember and make a new one. Also need to chop a hole in the floor for the shifter and get a custom length jackshaft made. |
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| Author: | jamiec [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Are the MG410 4 speed box's easy to find to do this conversion? Thanks for any help. Cheers Jamie |
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| Author: | sideways [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
They're quite rare. It took me years to find one, that's partially because I live in the middle of nowhere though. |
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| Author: | mrw82 [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
jamiec wrote: Are the MG410 4 speed box's easy to find to do this conversion? Thanks for any help. Cheers Jamie I have 2 of them! One running in snotbox with the 5 speed conversion. and the other sitting in the shed next to a 1.3 donor box waiting to be rebuilt as a spare. Let me know if your after one |
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| Author: | jamiec [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Does anyone know why we need to use the mg410 4 speed and not say the lj80 4 speed to do the conversion? Cheers Jamie |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
your kidding right? why not try the gearbox from a baleno instead? |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Because different. |
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| Author: | sideways [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
The MG410 gearbox (you can also use the gearbox from a type 3 1l, but that's the rarest sierra around) is essentially the same as the 1.3l 5 speed gearbox, but with a different bellhousing pattern and a 4 speed gearset. The LJ gearbox is totally different in every way, it's much smaller too. |
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| Author: | jamiec [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Quote: The MG410 gearbox (you can also use the gearbox from a type 3 1l, but that's the rarest sierra around) is essentially the same as the 1.3l 5 speed gearbox, but with a different bellhousing pattern and a 4 speed gearset. The LJ gearbox is totally different in every way, it's much smaller too. Thanks for the info that's all I needed to know. cheers Jamie |
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| Author: | Madhatter [ Sun May 03, 2015 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Are you running transfer gears as well? I've got the two boxes sitting here doing nothing, but I'm about to put 6.5:1 gears in. Just wondering how low that 1st will be then and if it would in turn make 5th usable. Diffs are 4.1:1 and tyres are 31. |
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| Author: | GreaseMonkey [ Tue May 26, 2015 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Are the 1l sj410 gearbox's same as mg410's? |
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| Author: | mmiller6512 [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
This may be a silly question but are the 1l sj410 gearbox's same as mg410's? |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Only the type 3 sj410's. These are cars with the plastic NT1.3 type dashboard. |
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| Author: | suzkboy [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Is the output spline that comes out of gear box the same on the two cars or do you have to get a 1300 output shaft? |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Not 100% sure. Mine was a mg410 so it fit straight up. Im about to pull this box out to make way for a 1.6 if anyone is looking for one. |
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| Author: | suzkboy [ Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Done this mod over the weekend just waiting for my front and rear seals to rock up and put the box back in. |
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| Author: | brammie [ Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mg410 5 speed conversion |
Any pic's of all this?? |
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