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Author:  ball [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:32 am ]
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I though I would post up some step by step pic of a pair of heads I am making.

They might be of interest to the 2 stroke suzuki owners 8)

Basic setup in the mill to drill the hold down bolt holes and centre hole for insert
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Boring centre hole
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Flycutting top face
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Author:  ball [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:56 am ]
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Squaring up the sides

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Author:  joeblow [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:57 am ]
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mmmmmmmmmmm............................ :P

Author:  Scrawny [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:58 am ]
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oooo... I like these threads

Author:  shep [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:09 am ]
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i like shiny stuff. :wink:

Author:  Saam [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:27 am ]
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shep wrote:
i like shiny stuff. :wink:


NO I LIKE SHINY STUFF MORE

Author:  shep [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:03 pm ]
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Saam wrote:
shep wrote:
i like shiny stuff. :wink:


NO I LIKE SHINY STUFF MORE


my racing motto has always been.
if ya cant be fast then ya should be flash. :wink:

Author:  money_killer [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:21 pm ]
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i love 2 stroke zooks SERIOUSLY WHERE DO I BUY ONE ???

Author:  ball [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:22 am ]
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I had a chance to get back to my heads today.

Roughing out the insert pocket
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Drilling water galleries
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Slotting water galleries
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More tomorrow hopefully 8)

Author:  steak_knife [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:29 am ]
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nice, watching a block turn into a head :P

Author:  ball [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:51 am ]
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There are going to be 2 of them. They are prototypes for a formula 500 speedway engine.

For my next trick I am going to carve out a crankcase, cylinder and more heads for a drag bike, but that won't be until next year. I am still undecided on the configuration I want.

Author:  steak_knife [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:59 am ]
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Are you making the entire eng? I have had the privilege of seeing a crank made from billet, only because I told him he couldn't do it 8)

Author:  ball [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:14 am ]
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steknig wrote:
Are you making the entire eng? I have had the privilege of seeing a crank made from billet, only because I told him he couldn't do it 8)


Most of it.

Some parts just aren't worth the hassle to make and it's cheaper/easier to buy them.

Pistons, rings, conrods, valve springs and any bearings will be purchased. I will probably buy the valves as blanks and turn them up to my specs. The crankcase, cylinder and the head(s) I will carve from billet.

The crank isn't a problem. I will rough it out, send it for heat treating and have someone finish grind it for me unless I get my hands on a crank grinder before then.

I want to go with 4 cylinder as they seem to be the fastest on the track at the moment. All the V twins are struggling to run the numbers.

Author:  shep [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:19 am ]
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2.2ltr four with front mount supercharger but with desmo valve train.
bet ya cant make it. :wink: :D

Author:  ball [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:23 am ]
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shep wrote:
2.2ltr four with front mount supercharger but with desmo valve train.
bet ya cant make it. :wink: :D


Why stop at 2.2ltr ????

Author:  shep [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:27 am ]
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cos that leaves room for making it bigger :D . plus you wont ride it and i might
get worried if it is too big. :oops:

Author:  dave [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:06 am ]
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Lets be truthful you are already scared of it. lol :)

Author:  shep [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:18 am ]
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so......whats happening. :D

Author:  ball [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:39 am ]
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shep wrote:
so......whats happening. :D


Picked up some inserts for my boring bar in Darwin last week and will probably get back to them tomorrow.

I spent today fixing a poxy caravan that had it's wheels hanging off due to piss poor maintenance

Author:  Damo [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:41 pm ]
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ball wrote:
shep wrote:
so......whats happening. :D


Picked up some inserts for my boring bar in Darwin last week and will probably get back to them tomorrow.

I spent today fixing a poxy caravan that had it's wheels hanging off due to piss poor maintenance


Just out of interest what inserts are you using Ball?

Author:  shep [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:26 pm ]
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damo if he got them in Darwin they are probably hairyforbs Chinese jobbies.

Author:  ball [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:14 pm ]
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Yep they are from hairy forbes, the brand is vandurit. Never tried these ones before and was all I could get on short notice. I will let you know if they are garbage.

All my lathe tooling is decent kennametal gear, just some of the mill tooling is chinese.

I have a couple of chinese made endmills with inserts in them and they are brilliant on the manual mill. I don't think they would hold up on a machining centre though.

Author:  Damo [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:52 pm ]
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Good to know you're getting some decent results with Chinese stuff, as that's probably all I can afford!

Author:  ball [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:11 pm ]
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Damo wrote:
Good to know you're getting some decent results with Chinese stuff, as that's probably all I can afford!


The inserts I just got were pretty much the same price as the quality ones I know work well :?

Author:  BUZOOKA [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:39 am ]
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u really have ur head screwed on tight ball that is some artistic shit


if u have me all those tool i still be hitting it with a rock :roll:

Author:  shep [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:22 pm ]
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BUZOOKA wrote:
u really have ur head screwed on tight ball that is some artistic shit


if u have me all those tool i still be hitting it with a rock :roll:


you a boiler maker? :lol:

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:50 pm ]
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He's a checkout chick :lol:

Goodwork Ball.

I can make many things. But not main components!

Author:  BUZOOKA [ Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:00 am ]
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im a deli bitch get it right lol

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:25 am ]
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thats some good work ball when its do are you going to strap a rocket to it it might make all the diffrence

Author:  ball [ Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:08 am ]
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Work has come to a halt on the heads. I want to turn the inserts up next but I need my big lathe back together.

I will post up some pics of the bits I have been making to rebuild the electronic side of it tomorrow.

I can also use the lathe to make more rocket engine casings and my dirty great big hybrid rocket engine :twisted:

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