[shakes]

EDIT: all sorted, what do you carry out with you?

My list is pretty basic, I like keeping things simple. But having a kid now, and usually travelling with others I like to have a few things on hand.

Sunscreen, bushmans repellant
kids and adults paracetamol and iboprufen, Rennie(ant-acid) zyrtec or similar, gastro-stop, hydralyte, thermomter
Stingose spray, Saline tubes, antiseptic cream, antibacterial handwash, cooling gel stuff.
Bandaids, butterfly's, compression bandages, gladwrap, electrical tape.
Splinter picks, tweezers, scissors.
Emergency blanket

That all fits neatly into a kids lunchbox type tub. Cover's most minor things that go wrong, if shit goes really wrong. Cling wrap and drive calling ambo's en-route (extremely rare we will be in a remote/air rescue area)

Be interested to hear other peoples set-ups and see if there is anything I should be including?



Not talking viagra, my first aid kit is getting pretty low in a few things.

Just little stuff like splinter picks (best things ever) and butterfly? wound closers among other things.

Do you think ANY of my local chemists have that stuff... being in melb I thought it would.. I'm fooled. Fuck em, online I go. Does anyone have place I can get it all from the one spot? Google is just trying to sell me viagra.

[Mattmorgo]

http://www.firstaiddistributions.com.au ... pQodBjkA_g

http://www.gasupplies.com.au/replenishment.html

Should keep you out of trouble, not sure why a chemist wouldnt stock that stuff

[1DYX]

Try industrial medical suppliers...

Sanax is one I use a bit. Dunno if they have a branch in other states...
http://www.sanaxmedical.com.au/index.ph ... e&Itemid=1

[boostedbrick]

Ebay is your friend, surprisingly HUGE amount of medical supplies for cheap. Pretty much anything your backyard doctor would need to get some Human Centipede shit going on.

[Chop]

Mine is from these guys http://www.survivalfirstaidkits.net.au/ i got it through ebay though.
Has a good first aid book with it,

[buzbox]

I have a first aid kit here that you can have cheap. It has your basic sort of stuff, Bangages, bandaids, eyepatch, saline solution, tweezers and things like that. In mine I've just added extra bandaids and bushmans repellant and soothing cream.

I thought, what is the common sort of injuries that would happen when camping (besides snake bite's) and added extra of those, Like cable ties and duct tape. Just remember, If it can't be fixed with cable ties or duct tape, it's not worth fixing.

[shakes]

buzbox wrote:

I have a first aid kit here that you can have cheap. It has your basic sort of stuff, Bangages, bandaids, eyepatch, saline solution, tweezers and things like that. In mine I've just added extra bandaids and bushmans repellant and soothing cream.

I thought, what is the common sort of injuries that would happen when camping (besides snake bite's) and added extra of those, Like cable ties and duct tape. Just remember, If it can't be fixed with cable ties or duct tape, it's not worth fixing.

Thanks for the offer, have all that stuff there, just need to top up a few of the consumables. Don't get the point of carrying around triangle bandages and crepe and all the other fancy ones... If someone hurts themselves bad enough to need that, I only need to stem the bleeding, stop them from moving (cue cable ties and duct tape) and keep them calm so we can get to a hospital. Can't keep up with the idea's on snakebites haha.

[royce]

Get a portable eye wash (just a few hundred ml bottle of fancy water) for track side fixes gone wrong.
ive got a tick puller, dunno if it works though never had a tick near my car

Ive always had some needle and thread in there too, incase you bust your pants its always in there

[foonji]

2x FAD's, Bushmans and WD40.

[lump_a_charcoal]

I have a fire blanket too, handy for cooking with gas.

[missmyljdaze]

shakes wrote:

EDIT: all sorted, what do you carry out with you?

My kits are the remains of 40+ years of first aid kits from scouts, army reserves, work, stuff scrounged and various leftovers.

Also have some vietnam milspec issue stuff given to me by a retired SAS warrant officer which came handy when we had to fix up a pig dog.

Handy hint- if you know someone with a vacuum packer, bag up your bandages and stuff in the heavy polythene vac. bags and heat seal them so they are waterproof.

One of these days I really should dig out all my old stuff and put together a couple of good sets and ditch the old gear, but I'm a bit stingy to chuck stuff out.

Stephen

[atari4x4]

missmyljdaze wrote:

Handy hint- if you know someone with a vacuum packer, bag up your bandages and stuff in the heavy polythene vac. bags and heat seal them so they are waterproof.

could always just chuck them in ounce (sandwich) sized snap lock bags & suck the air out of them, at least then they're reusable if you only needed one bandage.

[nato78]

having all the best first aid gear is one thing, having the knowledge and skills to use is something else entirely. I have the worlds best first aid kit (stocked from work), with enough stuff for me to be able to perform minor surgical procedures like suturing if the need arrises, BUT i also have the experience to be able to use all the stuff i carry.

A good start for most people would be:
an asortment of bandages including triangular bandages for slings.
simple non-stick dressings and pads/combines for heavier bleeding.
Some simple analgesia such as paracetamol and ibuprofen, which are also effective for reducing fevers, just be carefull with kiddies and doses.
bandaids, butterflies.
saline, hand sanitizer, burnaid gel is also great for relieving pain from burns and you can get it on ebay.
scissors, tweezers, several nappy pins.
note pad and pen/pencil.

but again having all that stuff is useless if you dont know how to use it, a good first aid course like st johns is invaluable.

[Chop]

After last easter being in the snowies and having a big bike stack, my kit always has ibprofen codeine tablets now.

[atari4x4]

nato78 wrote:

having all the best first aid gear is one thing, having the knowledge and skills to use is something else entirely. I have the worlds best first aid kit (stocked from work), with enough stuff for me to be able to perform minor surgical procedures like suturing if the need arrises, BUT i also have the experience to be able to use all the stuff i carry.

A good start for most people would be:
an asortment of bandages including triangular bandages for slings.
simple non-stick dressings and pads/combines for heavier bleeding.
Some simple analgesia such as paracetamol and ibuprofen, which are also effective for reducing fevers, just be carefull with kiddies and doses.
bandaids, butterflies.
saline, hand sanitizer, burnaid gel is also great for relieving pain from burns and you can get it on ebay.
scissors, tweezers, several nappy pins.
note pad and pen/pencil.

but again having all that stuff is useless if you dont know how to use it, a good first aid course like st johns is invaluable.

nato, out of interests sake what's the pencil & paper for, i've seen a few in first aid kits over the years...

is it to write down what you've used in the kit so you know what to restock it with or to play hangman whilst dying from a brown snake bite?

[nato78]

It should be used primarily for making notes of things that may be useful for the team that would be taking over care of the person, most likely ambos.

This is especially important in situations such as entrapments or crush injuries. With an entrapment or crush, any limb or body part that has had its blood flow reduced will begin to build up toxins. When you release an entrapment or crush, you will release that build up of toxins back into the circulating blood, which can kill the person. By noting times, you can let the team know how long the blood flow has been occluded, and they can take precautionary steps (or at least prepare for the pending cardiac arrest) prior to releasing the entrapment or crush.

Just a note on the brown snake bite, when you apply a torniquet or compression bandage, you are reducing blood flow to the limb, which can have the same effect of toxin build up. By noting the time that the bandage was applied, you can let the team know what to expect when they get around to releasing the bandage.

[zookprojectfnq]

I totally agree with Nato78 about having the skills to use a decent kit. I did a course last year for work. Not your average senior first aid but a cert 3 in Remote area care,(1 leval under a EMT). Even Though I did this course for the Mine emergency response team, I will never let it lapse and did it as if I was doing it for my self. 2 weeks training then monthly scenarios and a 2 day refresher every year
Since then, I have brought a proper trauma kit like the ones at work except I got it from the states for $200 instead of $1200 from first response. Every one on the team who did that course brought the same kit as me. I just added some extra stuff like a Blood glucose meter, Ventolin and a methoxyflurane inhaler.(green Whistle) and a few other drugs like antihistamines, Imodium for gastro and stemitil for inner ear problems associated with spear fishing etc plus plenty of codine based pain killers. some of these drugs you need at leased a cert 3 as well as a doctors authorization to buy and administer

Yeah you can can fix a stubbed toe and sprains with your lunch box kits, but if your in a remote area you can save the life of a complete stranger in need or more importantly your love ones. If you plan on doing a lot of camping or outdoor activities and have kids, go and do a first aid course and get a decent kit. You will be a better person for it.

Further more, if you are in a remote area and are injured/ serverlly ill. Go to the nearest Cattle station/ mine. They will have a RFDS kit, the training to use it and have a duty of care to help you. 90% of people I treat at work are campers and fisherman from surrounding areas. It is also a good Idea to keep the rfds help line and EMQ numbers in your phone.

This is the kit we brought. Good quality products and the bag is really good too.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ELITE-FIRST- ... 2c6d04a009

[bakerboy]

How do you get around the legalities of the green stick for personal kits?

[shakes]

We use pen a paper all the time if my daughter has a temperature - time, temp, panadol dose.

I have a bit of a background - years growing up in a SLSC much old first aid, as well as could administer oxygen for the ambo's. Thoughts have changed alot since then.
Recently a 3 day first aid and defib course. Very much based on worksite/remote stuff.

Should ad I also always have ventolin on me, and if I am riding remotely also carry a good stash of jelly beans.

Out of curiosity Nato - whats your thoughts on cling wrap as an emergancy bandage for big gashes or burns... ie wrap it to splint, stem bleeding etc, get the injured to the ambo's.

[bakerboy]

glad wrap is the shiz IMO haha

[zookprojectfnq]

If you read the whole paragraph it said " Some of these drugs you need at leased a cert 3 as well as a doctors authorization to buy and administer"
You have to state a good case to your GP and I had to order it through your pharmacist. Also yo have to know the contradictions of this drug and I also showed the lamented contradiction flash cards I keep in my kit to my GP to convince him to give me the green stick and an EPIPen.
I won't be renewing my Epipen when it expires as its nearly a 100 bucks and only lasts 12 months, same as the strips for the glucose meter

While your going with the cling wrap also 2 clip seal sandwich bags. I had a bloke severe 1 finger and smash another. One of his work mates drove him in with it in a container of slushy Ice thinking he was doing the right thing. It was to water logged and damaged to reattach.
So with fingers they go in a clip seal bag and then in another bag with Ice

[nato78]

shakes wrote:

Out of curiosity Nato - whats your thoughts on cling wrap as an emergancy bandage for big gashes or burns... ie wrap it to splint, stem bleeding etc, get the injured to the ambo's.

gladwrap is great for burns, we still use it in the ED until we can get the pt to a burns unit. Its also good for wrapping kiddies, especially new borns to get their core temp up.

as far as slinting/bleeding/etc, if its all you've got then go ahead and use it, it's better than nothing. But it wont stop the bleeding or promote clotting like a pad and compression bandage will.

[Microwire]

Hey all,

Check your first aid kits are in date.

I had one, didn't need it for a while alcohol wound wipes and sterile wipes were dry as a bone and unopened. soo not helpful!

[shakes]

nato78 wrote:

shakes wrote:

Out of curiosity Nato - whats your thoughts on cling wrap as an emergancy bandage for big gashes or burns... ie wrap it to splint, stem bleeding etc, get the injured to the ambo's.

gladwrap is great for burns, we still use it in the ED until we can get the pt to a burns unit. Its also good for wrapping kiddies, especially new borns to get their core temp up.

as far as slinting/bleeding/etc, if its all you've got then go ahead and use it, it's better than nothing. But it wont stop the bleeding or promote clotting like a pad and compression bandage will.

Thanks. - the no clotting one is interesting, makes sense some of the reasoning behind wrapping fresh tattoo in it. Clotting/scabbing removes ink

[disco]

Cling wrap is good for burns

[Santos]

I have a Aldi camping First aid kit.
It was woefully missing a lot of bits and pieces but when you think of it as a $17 waterpoof box with freeebies its better than buying a $20+ box on its own
I keep a small pocket first aid book which cost be less than $5 posted one ebay. Most of the items i transfered from the original lunchbox kit i had. Also recommend buying an EYE CUP from the pharmacy... for less than $2 don't muck around


It also floats


original lunchbox




This container now houses the first aid book, hot cream, cold cream, ibufren/paracetamol


The car also always have at least 8l of drinking water and small bottle of sunscreen.

White vinegar on extended trips.

[shakes]

So... out of the few people that went away I was the only one that had a kit...

Butterfly clips we used, splinter picks used. Neurofen stingose, zyrtec, betadine, several bandaids and a couple of wound covers plus tape.

With kids running around I dont get why you wouldn't? It did get me a few free beers

[Santos]

shakes wrote:

So... out of the few people that went away I was the only one that had a kit...

Butterfly clips we used, splinter picks used. Neurofen stingose, zyrtec, betadine, several bandaids and a couple of wound covers plus tape.

With kids running around I dont get why you wouldn't? It did get me a few free beers

I have experienced that countless times.. Also same with my multitool. Its like 'hey need duct-tape/axe/rope/rubber-washer? check with Santos'

Two things also that is a good idea to add to the first aid kit is a wool blanket and roll or two of toilet paper in a 10l dry bag.

Woolblanket can be substituted for a compact space blanket but i find the flexibility of the woolblanket worth the bulk. (truth be told i have both) A few plastic bags around the toilet roll is handy too.

[shep]

I am getting together a kit for my new car and remembered that there are a few people here with a medical background so thought I get some feed back or ideas on what products.

So far I have a little kit with band aids scissors etc which is about pocket size. Also have a box of latex gloves, 2x Israeli bandages and a S.O.P tourniquet.

Any one have any suggestions?

[ball]

burn spray