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Author:  RIKSTR [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Axle Widths
I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy.

Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS.

We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them.

The List

LJ50
Front 1130mm
Rear 1140mm

LJ80
Front 1230mm
Rear 1240mm

Sierra NT
Front 1250mm
Rear 1260mm

Sierra WT
Front 1340mm
Rear 1350mm

Vitara
Front 1435mm
Rear 1440mm

Vitara V6
Front
Rear

Jimny
Front
Rear

Grand Vitara
Front
Rear

Grand Vitara XL7
Front
Rear 1510mm 8O

Donors

Hilux (79-85)
Front 1397mm
Rear 1397mm

Hilux (86- )
Front 1397mm
Rear 1473mm

Bundera (insert year)
Front 1397mm
Rear

TJ Wrangler (Danas')
Front Dana 30 1563mm
Rear Dana 44 1563mm

Cruiser (40 Series)
Front 1447mm
Rear 1397mm

Cruiser (60 Series)
Front 1524mm
Rear 1473mm

Cruiser (70 Series)
Front
Rear

Cruiser (80 Series)
Front 1625mm
Rear 1612mm

Patrol MQ
Front 1422mm
Rear 1422mm

Patrol GQ
Front 1574mm
Rear 1574mm
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Hilux ifs rear
Cruiser 70/3/5/8/9 series.
Cruiser 100 series. Solid axle front.
Pootrol Mq/Mk
Pootrol GQ
Pootrol Gu

Good idea but no need to make a poll about it. :lol:
Author:  RIKSTR [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Never did a poll before :lol: probably wont do one again :wink:
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
oh :? :lol:
Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Timmay has done plenty of poles...
Author:  31zook [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
timmy got his freak on :lol:
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
I dont think i have done any polls.

But when you tell your missus about the suzuki, she wont be climbing your pole anytime soon.( i so hope she reads this) :P
Author:  kreecha [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
By brake to brake width do you mean WMS to WMS?

Not trying to be a picky bastard, just other resources (pirate, IH8MUD) use WMS.

cheers, Davo.
Author:  LAY80N [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
kreecha wrote:
By brake to brake width do you mean WMS to WMS?

Not trying to be a picky bastard, just other resources (pirate, IH8MUD) use WMS.

cheers, Davo.


Wheel mounting surface - as in the flange that that the wheel mounts against. Diff measurement is done from one WMS to the other WMS.

Layto....
Author:  LAY80N [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
RIKSTR wrote:
I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy.

Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS.

We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them.

The List

LJ50
Front
Rear

LJ80
Front
Rear

Sierra NT
Front - 50
Rear - 50

Sierra WT
Front - 52
Rear - 52

Vitara
Front ?
Rear - ~56

Vitara V6
Front
Rear

Jimny
Front
Rear

Grand Vitara
Front
Rear

Grand Vitara (Independent)
Front
Rear

Donors

Hilux (insert year)
Front - 55 (Pre IFS)
Rear - 55 (pre IFS) - 58 (IFS)

Bundera (insert year)
Front (see hilux, but offset rear)
Rear

TJ Wrangler (Danas') - Which dana, there are THOUSANDS of setups, from jeep, chev, ford etc etc, rangin from pissy dana 25's up to full size dana 70's with 80 inch WMS-WMS. I hve a large list of widths, offset and stud patterns i will try to dig up, it lists the more useful ones. Even the wranglers had different Dana's depending on make model Rubicon spec etc :wink:
Front
Rear

Cruiser (40 Series)
Front ~55
Rear ~ 55

Cruiser (60 Series)
Front - ~60
Rear - ~60

Cruiser (70 Series)
Front
Rear

Cruiser (80 Series)
Front - 63
Rear - 63

Patrol MQ
Front -56
Rear - 56

Patrol GQ
Front - ~62
Rear- 62


Some of these are from memory, i will dig up and check what i have noted down, i have every toyota diff except the 40 series sitting round so i will measure them on the weekend too and correct any mistakes.

Layto....
Author:  303zuke [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
RIKSTR wrote:
I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy.

Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion.

We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') .....
The List
I work in Millimetres, it's a bit more accurate than "to the nearest Inch"
LJ50
Front 1130mm
Rear 1140mm

LJ80
Front 1230mm
Rear 1240mm

Sierra NT
Front 1250mm
Rear 1260mm

Sierra WT
Front 1340mm
Rear 1350mm

Vitara
Front 1435mm
Rear 1440mm
Author:  kreecha [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
LAY80N wrote:
kreecha wrote:
By brake to brake width do you mean WMS to WMS?

Not trying to be a picky bastard, just other resources (pirate, IH8MUD) use WMS.

cheers, Davo.


Wheel mounting surface - as in the flange that that the wheel mounts against. Diff measurement is done from one WMS to the other WMS.

Layto....


Yep that is what I was saying mate.

And if anyone cares, 80 hubs fit on 60 diffs, and viceversa.
This makes fitting discs to a 60 a tad easier, also a cheap way to (legally) widen a 60 rear. The standard brakes don't fit then though, they do not mix and match.
And the 60's are good offsets for sierra's. (big pumpkin though. :( ), and I should know..... I have some waiting at home for me. :D

Cheers, Davo.
Author:  RIKSTR [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
WMS to WMS is what I was after :lol:

I have updated to first post with the numbers
Author:  RIKSTR [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Updated with GV XL7 rear
Author:  31zook [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
maybe a move to good tech would be a good idea..... ;)
Author:  ZookiMonsta [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. 8O :twisted:
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
ZookiMonsta wrote:
My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. 8O :twisted:


So your axle is wider than a mog diff? I think not. :roll:
Author:  Bucket [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
I believe gu diffs are 25mm wider per side then gq
Author:  ZookiMonsta [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Fatzook wrote:
ZookiMonsta wrote:
My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. 8O :twisted:


So your axle is wider than a mog diff? I think not. :roll:


No, but the wheel track is... side wall to side wall.
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
ZookiMonsta wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
ZookiMonsta wrote:
My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. 8O :twisted:


So your axle is wider than a mog diff? I think not. :roll:


No, but the wheel track is... side wall to side wall.


Ok. This thread is about WMS to WMS measurements.

Does anyone know if SV diffs are the same width as SQ GV----> diffs?
Author:  got_bar_work [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Does any one know what the gv wms to wms is
Author:  Built4thrashing [ Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
RIKSTR wrote:
I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy.

Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS.

We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them.

The List

LJ50
Front 1130mm
Rear 1140mm

LJ80
Front 1230mm
Rear 1240mm

Sierra NT
Front 1250mm
Rear 1260mm

Sierra WT
Front 1340mm
Rear 1350mm

Vitara
Front 1435mm
Rear 1440mm

Vitara V6
Front
Rear

Jimny
Front
Rear

Grand Vitara
Front
Rear 1510mm

Grand Vitara XL7
Front
Rear 1510mm 8O

Donors

Hilux (79-85)
Front 1397mm
Rear 1397mm

Hilux (86- )
Front 1397mm
Rear 1473mm

Bundera (insert year)
Front 1397mm
Rear

TJ Wrangler (Danas')
Front Dana 30 1563mm
Rear Dana 44 1563mm

Cruiser (40 Series)
Front 1447mm
Rear 1397mm

Cruiser (60 Series)
Front 1524mm
Rear 1473mm

Cruiser (70 Series)
Front
Rear

Cruiser (80 Series)
Front 1625mm
Rear 1612mm

Patrol MQ
Front 1422mm
Rear 1422mm

Patrol GQ
Front 1574mm
Rear 1574mm
Author:  gregdixon [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Built4thrashing wrote:
RIKSTR wrote:
I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy.

Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS.

We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them.

The List

LJ50
Front 1130mm
Rear 1140mm

LJ80
Front 1230mm
Rear 1240mm

Sierra NT
Front 1250mm
Rear 1260mm

Sierra WT
Front 1340mm
Rear 1350mm

Vitara
Front 1435mm
Rear 1440mm

Vitara V6
Front
Rear

Jimny
Front
Rear

Grand Vitara
Front
Rear 1510mm

Grand Vitara XL7
Front
Rear 1510mm 8O

Donors

Hilux (79-85)
Front 1397mm
Rear 1397mm

Hilux (86- )
Front 1397mm
Rear 1473mm

Bundera (insert year)
Front 1397mm
Rear

TJ Wrangler (Danas')
Front Dana 30 1563mm
Rear Dana 44 1563mm

Cruiser (40 Series)
Front 1447mm
Rear 1397mm

Cruiser (60 Series)
Front 1524mm
Rear 1473mm

Cruiser (70 Series)
Front
Rear

Cruiser (80 Series)
Front 1625mm
Rear 1612mm

Patrol MQ
Front 1422mm
Rear 1422mm

Patrol GQ
Front 1574mm
Rear 1574mm


You thinking 28 spline rear diff to replace the GV 26 spline??? :D
Author:  Built4thrashing [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
if you could get other ratios it would be an option.
Author:  gregdixon [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
Man 4.3 and auto 5.13. Not sure if they changed the crown wheel and pinion sizes. I would have thought they just put bigger axles in. Might be tough gettin a locker though.
Author:  got_bar_work [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
I thought that the xl7 was wider then the gv
Author:  Built4thrashing [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
got_bar_work wrote:
I thought that the xl7 was wider then the gv



Just longer. rear body work might be wider but thats it
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
bit of a stretch but people wouldn't have weights of these as well?
Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
anyone got the WMS of the SV420?
Author:  SierraDan [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Axle Widths
anybody know the width of a 70series rear?
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