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Bobsan
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:30 pm Posts: 32
Vehicle: 2011 5door GV & 2007 Jimny
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WE purchased a 2011 Grand Vitara and cannot find any info on locating the breather on the gearbox. Visually is it the tube facing down from near the top of the bellhousing if not where is it and is there another breather for the transfer case. I have extended both Diff breathers but am stonkered on the gearbox transfer case breathers. any advise appreciated. Bobsan
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Mike_B
Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:56 am Posts: 76 Location: Burnie, Tas
Vehicle: 95 Vitara Hardtop
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If Suzuki followed the same set up as the Vitara's, yes it would be a tube facing down near the top of the bell housing. My Vit transfer case breather is joined into the gearbox breather tube on top of the gearbox so only one tube up into the engine bay. From underneath you should be able to trace the tube back along the top of the gearbox....depending on access and the size of your hand of course.
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Bobsan
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:30 pm Posts: 32
Vehicle: 2011 5door GV & 2007 Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:04 pm |
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Thanks Mike-B for the info I will check the breather out at the weekend. Bobsan
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disco
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:08 am Posts: 1282
Vehicle: Grand Vitara 2010, 2.4 litre
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I have a 2010 auto and asked ARB to put diff breathers in and one for the transmission, they did the diffs but said the transmission was fully sealed and couldn't be done.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13002 Location: Melbourne
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Correct disco, automatic gearboxes don't have breathers. Manuals do though.
Steve.
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vitzookman
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:14 am Posts: 347 Location: Bris
Vehicle: 2001 XL7
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 Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:05 pm |
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Pirahna do them but only when the gear box is dropped down
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disco
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:08 am Posts: 1282
Vehicle: Grand Vitara 2010, 2.4 litre
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 Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:54 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: Correct disco, automatic gearboxes don't have breathers. Manuals do though.
Steve. Lol Well I guess the day I can contribute to my first tech thread is not today
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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 Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:25 pm |
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disco wrote: I have a 2010 auto and asked ARB to put diff breathers in and one for the transmission, they did the diffs but said the transmission was fully sealed and couldn't be done. disco wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: Correct disco, automatic gearboxes don't have breathers. Manuals do though. Steve. Lol Well I guess the day I can contribute to my first tech thread is not today What about the transfer case behind that auto? Surely it has a breather though?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13002 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:59 pm |
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Yes it will.
Not sure if this as been covered, but old shape vitaras have a transfer breather that goes up to the firewall. Not sure about the NGV.
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disco
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:08 am Posts: 1282
Vehicle: Grand Vitara 2010, 2.4 litre
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 Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:51 am |
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I'm a total tech newb, but ARB did look at my transmission to see if it needed a breather, and told me it was "fully sealed". So if you trust them, you'd presume there isn't any.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13002 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:58 am |
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There will be a breather on a manual transmission and the transfer case, for sure. Otherwise there is nowhere for the pressure to vent when he air in it gets hot.
Maybe Steve125 or another experienced NGV owner can confirm if they still have a firewall mounted breather.
It's still worth considering how deep you really want to go into water. The top of the transfer is going to equal water close to bum depth inside the car if you stop/get stuck. That would most likely be considered an insurance write off.
Steve.
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disco
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:08 am Posts: 1282
Vehicle: Grand Vitara 2010, 2.4 litre
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 Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:45 am |
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I think the wading depth of the NGV is 500mm
Adding breathers and snorkel - well I'm a total tech newb, but the 600mm seemed okay, I'd probably go to 700mm but not sure if i would feel comfortable going past that. Particularly in croc infested water.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13002 Location: Melbourne
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Can anyone confirm that depth? That's surprisingly deep for a manufacturer figure. Sounds like it could open up a litany of warranty claims, and everyone knows suzukis attitude to warranty claims after offroad use.
Steve.
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disco
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:08 am Posts: 1282
Vehicle: Grand Vitara 2010, 2.4 litre
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^ this is exactly what I thought, I am just repeating what I've been told on this forum
I'm pretty sure the book says something like 'half way up the wheels' since they are stock 16inch I guess around 200mm.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13002 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:42 pm |
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That'd be about 350mm then, which would be below diff seals, the gearbox etc. it's pretty much the number you'd expect to ensure the dealer never has to deal with water ingress into anything as a warranty issue.
Steve.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:03 pm |
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Anyone know where I can find this information on some Suzuki paperwork?
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