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Dean P

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Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:30 pm Posts: 2
Vehicle: 1999 Suzuki Jimny
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I'm trying to find somewhere to source a turbo diesel engine for my 1999 Suzuki Jimny 1.3... Is this possible in australia??
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watermouse

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Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 868
Vehicle: zook
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:51 pm |
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The diesel jimny was never released in Australia.
I looked into it years ago and I got some advice from european diesel jimny owner that they were a terrible engine for reliabilty and had a bad reputation in Europe, But that was his opinion. Things may have changed.
IIRC they are the same or similar engine to the early Renault Kangoo vans and some diesel Clios but I am not sure if even they were sold in Australia in quantity, if at all. If you could be bothered you would have to look in the LHD European market.
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watermouse

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Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 868
Vehicle: zook
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:05 pm |
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The general consensus on this forum is that diesel conversions aren't worth the time or money to overcome the complications for little real world gain. But it is an interesting topic , for me at least. bit of digging on the internets http://www.bigjimny.com/index.php/information/frequently-asked-questionsEngine code K9K, you could do some more digging to find out what other cars had this engine. As far as I am aware no RHD versions were made which would suggest that there would be no room to run the steering shaft and perhaps the brake booster when this engine is installed. You would also need to research what gbox transfer and diff ratios you need to gear the engine correctly. Once you have done all that you will probably come to the same conclusion everyone before you has. But have fun 
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Dean P

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Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:30 pm Posts: 2
Vehicle: 1999 Suzuki Jimny
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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Dean P wrote: I'm trying to find somewhere to source a turbo diesel engine for my 1999 Suzuki Jimny 1.3... Is this possible in australia??
Thanks I have in person seen a VW 1.9TDI engine done into a 1 litre maruti tray back. Considering the 1.3 sierra and g13bb (Edit: g13bb Jimny, before some smartarse pulls me up talking only engines) have some similarities, this may be an option. Its validity for off road work I remain to be convinced. Fuel economy over a zook engine, I remain to be convinced when you consider the cost of the conversion. It does however go well un geared on 31's onroad and attracts plenty of attention and potential buyers. The main purpose of the vehicle is fire road and basic off road transport, for shooting and fishing. I would use a g16b instead.
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Jim_Aus
Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:36 pm Posts: 143
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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watermouse

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Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 868
Vehicle: zook
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:48 pm |
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At one time I seriously considered a Hyundai i30 1.6l common rail diesel. I even found one in a wrecker but the price tag was around $4.5K for the complete engine incl turbo and the electronics to run it. The engine had less than 10,000km on it though.
Aside from the price it was higher gearing that stopped me. But I suppose 31s over 26s is a fair bit of gearing.
And yep, the G16B ended up in it. Best thing I ever did.
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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Marko_SJ wrote: Dean P wrote: I'm trying to find somewhere to source a turbo diesel engine for my 1999 Suzuki Jimny 1.3... Is this possible in australia??
Thanks I have in person seen a VW 1.9TDI engine done into a 1 litre maruti tray back.Considering the 1.3 sierra and g13bb (Edit: g13bb Jimny, before some smartarse pulls me up talking only engines) have some similarities, this may be an option. Its validity for off road work I remain to be convinced. Fuel economy over a zook engine, I remain to be convinced when you consider the cost of the conversion. It does however go well un geared on 31's onroad and attracts plenty of attention and potential buyers. The main purpose of the vehicle is fire road and basic off road transport, for shooting and fishing. I would use a g16b instead. Intersting..I bet the motor was expensive being VW..
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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ZookFan wrote: Marko_SJ wrote: Dean P wrote: I'm trying to find somewhere to source a turbo diesel engine for my 1999 Suzuki Jimny 1.3... Is this possible in australia??
Thanks I have in person seen a VW 1.9TDI engine done into a 1 litre maruti tray back.Considering the 1.3 sierra and g13bb (Edit: g13bb Jimny, before some smartarse pulls me up talking only engines) have some similarities, this may be an option. Its validity for off road work I remain to be convinced. Fuel economy over a zook engine, I remain to be convinced when you consider the cost of the conversion. It does however go well un geared on 31's onroad and attracts plenty of attention and potential buyers. The main purpose of the vehicle is fire road and basic off road transport, for shooting and fishing. I would use a g16b instead. Intersting..I bet the motor was expensive being VW.. I didn't ask cost wise, but he had it rebuilt too for good measure. My mates uncle, he isn't the most talkative friendly bloke you'll meet kinda thing.... but he sorts his stuff out properly did everything properly AFAIK. Money wasn't an issue, evidently.
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sj80tourer
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:27 pm Posts: 143
Vehicle: sj80 coily
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vw stuff is cheap you can get a conversion kit from acmeconversions 575 and a engine for 1450 complete wit loom and ecu or 800 alone on ebay
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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sj80, considering G16B's are almost free, and that's absolutely nowhere near the whole cost of the VW conversion, I don't think it's cheap at all.
The 1.9 turbodiesel kit from acme is $695US. that's going to be over au$1K delivered. It also requires a radiator on top of this, and then there's going to be a huge number of odds and ends. The complete radiator kit from ACME is US$600
Where are the $1400 motors? "Complete with loom and ECU" does that include the (required) instrument cluster and ignition barrel/key to defeat the immobiliser? What of the rest of the conversion parts the AHU motor requires?
I maintain this is realistically a $10K conversion. That's a lot of fuel in a 1.6. Additionally, the motor is now much more sensitive to fuel and air quality, contains far more sensors, and is far more electronically complex, what are the reasons most people want a diesel - typically for water crossings and remote travel.
And, on top of all this, ACME have no solution for the flaky gearing you and up with other than "put a SPOA on it and run 31's" It might be possible to run an AW-4 using a tracker/sidekick conversion adapter, which will lower cruise RPM, but then you need to work out how to shift the auto.
Whilst the 31's will drop road revs, you're still moving 20% faster offroad for the same gear as a stock sierra. that's too fast and has nothing to do with diesel torque - my 660cc petrol had plenty of torque offroad.
What does the 1.9 TDi weigh? considering a laden jimny already exceeds its front axle weight if it has a bullbar and winch, the diesel isn't going to do any favours for front end longevity or handling.
Yes, I also understand the factory suzuki diesels in europe aren't very well engineered.
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AckerDackerly

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Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:53 pm Posts: 361 Location: Independence, MO USA
Vehicle: 1993 RHD Suzuki Escudo Tintop
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I am doing a 1.9 TDI swap into an '88.5 SJ413 for daily driver use...
That said, it has been a challenge to keep this project from turning into a money pit...
Just talking about the drivetrain, I have $800 in an 1989 Jetta 1.9 "AHU" electronic TDI, $1300 in a complete harness with ecu and fly-by-wire accelerator pedal, about $750 in the adapters/motor mounts/clutchplate/oil filter mount, $125 for a Vit power steering pump and box and $175 in a Vit 5-speed gearbox/transfer case. That's $2250 US ($3105 AU) before tunnel mods, radiator mounting mods, a custom or VW radiator and custom propshafts. I also spent another $250 for OME 1.5 inch lift springs...
This will be a Daily Driver chassis-off restoration whose main purpose is to "keep me busy" in my retirement. It certainly is not something to do just for better gas mileage!
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