[fully sick coily]

hi everyone

i've been thinking of getting a welded centre and was wondering if
it would make a difference on the beach?
and does it effect steering greatly?

thanks max

[SierraDan]

Yes. and you'll want chromo's otherwise you'll be snapping CV's all the time

[Rusho]

SierraDan wrote:

Yes. and you'll want chromo's otherwise you'll be snapping CV's all the time

Not going to happen....'fully sick COILY' user name

Yes and suck it and see. I have a spare set of cv's

[SierraDan]

Rusho wrote:

SierraDan wrote:

Yes. and your car is gay

Not going to happen....'fully sick COILY' user name

Yes and suck it and see. I have a spare set of cv's

Fixed.

[GRPABT1]

You shouldn't need lockers for the beach in a Sierra and a permanently locked front will suck in the sand I reckon, sand is one place where I value quick light steering. If you're not locked rear then I suggest doing that first.

[SierraDan]

Locked rear in sand is awesome. Twin locked with a welded front in sand sucks.

[fully sick coily]

Rusho wrote:

SierraDan wrote:

Yes. and you'll want chromo's otherwise you'll be snapping CV's all the time

Not going to happen....'fully sick COILY' user name

Yes and suck it and see. I have a spare set of cv's

what do you mean by this?

[SierraDan]

Coily's have different size/length axles. You can't run off the shelf chromos.

[fully sick coily]

What about rear diff centre

[BlueSuzy]

Rear diff will hold up fine with a welded/spool carrier

[stockman]

Welded rear is fine, but welded front is ghey (could suit the car well).

[abclarke]

stockman wrote:

Welded rear is fine, but welded front is ghey (could suit the car well).

[SierraDan]

stockman wrote:

Welded rear is fine, but welded front is for real men

Fixed it for you

[fully sick coily]

so yes or no?
the only reason i ask how they go on the sand is because i launch my boat every weekend (on the sand)

[GRPABT1]

A welded front will suck on the sand and require chromo cv's and axles in a sierra. A welded rear will be fine.

[fully sick coily]

how will it act on the road?

[GRPABT1]

On the road it will suck on low speed corners and car parks with a welded rear, but thats what you get for being a cheap skate. Spend a bit more on an auto locker and it won't be so bad on road.

[fully sick coily]

how much are auto lockers?
will they fit a coily?
any recomended brands?

thanks

[Rusho]

fully sick coily wrote:

how much are auto lockers?
will they fit a coily?
any recomended brands?

thanks

The only option for a front lokka in a coily is welded... I can't imagine you busting axles and cv's in the sand

[GRPABT1]

Not sure what fit's a coily rear (that sounds so ghey), but Rusho should be able to enlighten us with his wisdom.

[Rusho]

GRPABT1 wrote:

Not sure what fit's a coily rear (that sounds so ghey), but Rusho should be able to enlighten us with his wisdom.

Wisdom.... AFAIK the rear coily diff accepts everything that a leafy does. I will also add that your axels and cv's SHOULD be ok in the sand as long as you don't drive like a knob head.

[GRPABT1]

But locked on the sand heavy steering will still make it a pain in the arse I reckon, key to sand driving is momentum and that's hard to keep up whilst turning and avoiding obstacles etc with a locked front.

[fully sick coily]

any good brands of auto lockers
for my rear diff

[Gwagensteve]

Welded front diffs suck immensely under all conditions.
Auto lockers suck a little bit in the rear. Spartan seem OK?

Steve

[GRPABT1]

4wd systems lokka brand is what I went with when I bought one cause they have a decent warranty and still cheap.

[fully sick coily]

how much is "cheap"

[BlueSuzy]

www.lowrangeoffroad.com

[SierraDan]

Gwagensteve wrote:

Auto lockers suck a little bit in the rear. Spartan seem OK?

Steve

I barely know my Spartan is there and it has been faultless.

[Shift]

As another opinion I think welded front on the sand is no worse then a welded front on any other surface. I've done a dozen beach trips now with mine welded and I have no issues with steering. Really it only badly affects steering when your barely moving, but even that isn't as heavy as when on dirt or most other 4WD surfaces. I'll also mention that I haven't snapped any cvs or axles yet, and its wrong to assume a welded front diff will result in snapping them every other trip out. Your driving style and what you drive will have the most effect on that.

[christover1]

Shift wrote:

As another opinion I think welded front on the sand is no worse then a welded front on any other surface. I've done a dozen beach trips now with mine welded and I have no issues with steering. Really it only badly affects steering when your barely moving, but even that isn't as heavy as when on dirt or most other 4WD surfaces. I'll also mention that I haven't snapped any cvs or axles yet, and its wrong to assume a welded front diff will result in snapping them every other trip out. Your driving style and what you drive will have the most effect on that.

X2.

I ran welded both ends in my Sierra for around 10 years.
Was fine.
But after lucking out on a cheap lock rite for the front, I was much happier.
Welded rear stayed for life of the Sierra.