Rtc or just damper?

The mud tyres feel a little rougher on the road compared to the highway terrains, would a damper or rtc make a difference maybe make it feel like road tyres again, I'm not trying to hide death wobbles

To the people that say no damper, do you also run with no dampers on your suspension? after all if its all setup right it shouldn't need it right?

whats that? its impossible to fit a spring that will take care of every single possibility so you need to dampers to keep control?

Hmm well isnt that interesting

To the people that say no damper, do you also run with no dampers on your suspension? after all if its all setup right it shouldn't need it right?

whats that? its impossible to fit a spring that will take care of every single possibility so you need to dampers to keep control?

Hmm well isnt that interesting

I'm with Reubs, but I don't think the ONLY reason people fit is to overcome death wobbles. I fitted a damper without an RTC spring, and then took it off because it can make your steering a bit heavier/and hence slower - obviously thats the whole point. The jimny has a quick steering rack (low number of turns lock to lock). Not sure how this compares to many other 4x4's, I have only driven a few, Kulgers, Rav4's, Hilux's at work but they all have a slower rack; so factor heavier steering into the equation and balance that off against what you want to achieve. I'm a lot of road use, so I don't want heavy steering - if you have a comp car, or are very offroad biased, I'd expect you might not care about your steering being heavier. The RTC comes in handy if driving in ruts and you loose track of dead ahead - but in my opinion this is hard to do in a Jimny because again as stated the rack is quite quick, so a full turn out and you aren't anything near dead ahead. The damper takes out the harshness if rock hopping or any other rough terrain, but this is a bit out there into hardcore 4x4 territory so again consider yout useage.

If you just want some bling, and a yummy damper poking out then yay woopy, I'm all for that too, but there are some negatives imo.

Whats that? Someone is stating something about supsension set up that is widely accepted as being rediculous? Now they are using that to make an opinion on a very different subject appear to be stupid; an opinion that differs from their own?

Hmm well isn't that interesting

- actually no, it happens occasionally and noobs will learn to ignore.

Royce, strangely enough shock absorbers are required to keep the tyres in contact with the road surface and the car would become dangerous to drive over any less-than-perfect road surface without them.
vitaras etc.,

vitaras etc.,

To the people that say no damper, do you also run with no dampers on your suspension? after all if its all setup right it shouldn't need it right?

whats that? its impossible to fit a spring that will take care of every single possibility so you need to dampers to keep control?

Hmm well isnt that interesting

Whats that? some kid on the internet with 5 mins experience holding a spanner thinks he is a guru cause he is so far off the mark its not funny and can try and be a smart ass?
Funny that a steering damper does the EXACT same thing as a suspension damper

Tell me this, did Suzuki not fit them cause they have better engineers than Toyota and Nissan and Range Rover and they designed the same front end better (for a hint, go find jimny wobble thread) or because they are cheap cars and they were interested in keeping costs down where they could?

Want 33 - Mini Power trip, - I should go have a look at my steering should I because you know the correct name for it, and I don't I thought all types were referred to as rack. Why don't you just tell me the correct name? It would have taken about the same amount of typing.

I thought Noobs was the no flame zone? Full of sarcasm from the mods as usual. I'm a kid know it all for calling BS on your stupid posts.

Ok, so the type of steering with the Box is referred to as a steering Box. Well Thanks... eventually. No need for me to go and have a look actually, I already know what it looks like. You could have told me with less attitude in half as many posts.

I had a RTC on my jimny...waste of $200 IMO....took the spring off...still a waste of $200 IMO don't bother with one...put the money towards some other "useful" mod....

Show me where the springs are in the steering system and I'll show you where it needs a damper to damp the springs oscillation.

Steering dampers are fitted to mask the effects of wear and tear on the moving parts of the steering system and variations in wheel balance. You will note they are pretty much unique to live axle vehicles. Where's the damper in your vitara? Hmmm, that's interesting. It doesn't fawking have one, and neither does any other IFS 4WD.

In fact, the only car of mine I've had death wobble in had a perfectly functional damper on the steering, and that was due to kooky caster through my inept modifications.

A properly maintained steering system does not require a damper. Kingpin preload is the key.

OK... another typical AZ argument thread.

I have a jimny with 215 km2s, When i fitted the tyres i found it tracked and got thrown around more than before the tyres were fitted.
I do a lot of freeway driving, so at that speed it can be a bit scary. I fitted a non RTC steering damper, it definitely lessened the problem. I notice no difference offroad, i bought it to stabilise my car at speed, it worked.
I used a cheap one from jimny bits.

Is it lifted, did you put some castor correction in? Glad you got good results with the damper.