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| Author: | Deego [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sump gasket sealant |
I'm changing my sump gasket and I'm wondering whats the best sealant to use |
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| Author: | want33s [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
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| Author: | Deego [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
How hard is it to change a sump gasket.do you put the sealant both sides of the gasket. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
there is no gasket used on suzuki sumps only the sealant... clean both surfaces so they're spotless, apply a bead around one of the flanges (engine or sump) & around the bolt holes, let it tack off slightly, then refit the sump. |
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| Author: | Deego [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Why do they sell the gasket then |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
atari4x4 wrote: there is no gasket used on suzuki sumps only the sealant... clean both surfaces so they're spotless, apply a bead around one of the flanges (engine or sump) & around the bolt holes, let it tack off slightly, then refit the sump. there is a cork gasket available for 8 valve engines |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
royce wrote: atari4x4 wrote: there is no gasket used on suzuki sumps only the sealant... clean both surfaces so they're spotless, apply a bead around one of the flanges (engine or sump) & around the bolt holes, let it tack off slightly, then refit the sump. there is a cork gasket available for 8 valve engines sorry boss, didn't realise that there was one for the 8 valve, i was recalling this post of losfers & his hate of cork gaskets... losfer wrote: on a side note , i absolutely hate cork gaskets , i prefer a high temp rtv silicone myself , i am that confident , that i would use a silicone , let it cure , then remove all the bolts and drive around .
most suzukis left the factory with silicone (3 bond) as a sump gasket. when you go to remove the sump from the engine it takes quite some force. the only time i will ever use a cork gasket is in a "in car situation" where theres a possibility of scraping some of the silicon on something else and compromising the seal , in this case i will use a cork gasket that is glued to the sump using contact adhesive , you should never use a silicon sealant with a cork gasket. |
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| Author: | Deego [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Can ya get away with one for a 1.3l serria.by the way I know this might be a silly question but what do you mean bead. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
when you squeeze the tube & the stuff comes out like a worm... that's a bead. 
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| Author: | stockman [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Suzi Store list a cork gasket for the 16v engine, but when ordered they send a 8v gasket 
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| Author: | Deego [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Can I get away with just putting the sealant on.some people say you don't need the gasket. |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Yesss |
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| Author: | Deego [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
No worries thanks mate |
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| Author: | Deego [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Can you also smear the sealant around the sump or you have to do that bead apply. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Has to be enough so when you bolt the sump on, the silicone squishes and seals a good amount on both sides. Both sides must be clean of oil. Most of my oil gaskets go in the bin to run silicone only. |
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| Author: | squibby [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
This threads kinda been talked to death already, but I can vouch for the Locktite product pictured above and comes with clear instructions on how to apply. |
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| Author: | sideways [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
I rebuilt a 202 Holden Red motor once. Someone had used silicone instead of the cork gasket for the sump, bits of silicone had separated off and partially blocked the oil pickup. The bearings were nicely down to the copper. I like cork. Cork you idiot, not cock. 
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
A mates 253 had the same issue with the silicon. But for a Sierra motor it works just fine. |
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| Author: | Jackson [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
sideways wrote: I rebuilt a 202 Holden Red motor once. Someone had used silicone instead of the cork gasket for the sump, bits of silicone had separated off and partially blocked the oil pickup. The bearings were nicely down to the copper. I like cork. Seen the same in a mates hilux motor The problem is people must think they need to use the whole tube for a thermostat housing. 
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| Author: | 2stroker [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
No the problem is that there are numerous silicone sealants but not all are designed to be used where oil is in play, if you use the correct one you will not have this problem. |
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| Author: | Deego [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Could you tell us the right one to use mate. |
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| Author: | want33s [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
want33s wrote:
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| Author: | Deego [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
And these are the ones where oil is in play |
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| Author: | Deego [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Sorry I mean and these sealants good for what 2strocker commented before |
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| Author: | want33s [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Deego wrote: And these are the ones where oil is in play It says on the packet on the right.."OUTSTANDING OIL RESISTANCE".  Do you really think I'd recommend you use an unsuitable product? |
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| Author: | Deego [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
No sorry mate.thanks for that |
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| Author: | Deego [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
I know you can glue the gasket to what's good glue to use |
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| Author: | zukmeista [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Deego wrote: I know you can glue the gasket to what's good glue to use Seriously, are you retarded? USE SOME GODDAMN RTV SILICONE THAT IS OIL RESISTANT!!!
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| Author: | tim80z [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Deego wrote: I know you can glue the gasket to what's good glue to use want33s wrote: - Tim. |
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| Author: | Deego [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sump gasket sealant |
Sorry what i mean is People use a Contact adhesive rather then silicon to glue the gasket on |
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