[buzbox]

It's been well over 10 years since I owned a carby powered car, and I've well.. not so much that I've forgotten, but I just can't seem to remember how to do the dodgy kill switch thing.

Can someone please remind me, and draw a pretty picture on how to do it.

[zukmeista]

Maybe put a switch in the power feed to the fuel cutoff solenoid?

[want33s]

zukmeista wrote:

Maybe put a switch in the power feed to the fuel cutoff solenoid?

That won't stop it running, just idling.

Run two wires from a hidden switch up to your coil... Remove the single wire from the coil and attach one of the wires from the switch to it.
Attach the other switch wire to the coil where you removed the original.
Bingo! instant kill witch.

[Jackson]

I would reckon switch in the idle solenoid would be good. Assuming that the person trying to steal your car would do it how I would then a kill switch in your coil wouldn't bother them.
At least if it wouldn't idle I would be like screw this it's broken anyway.

[buzbox]

want33s wrote:

zukmeista wrote:

Maybe put a switch in the power feed to the fuel cutoff solenoid?

That won't stop it running, just idling.

Run two wires from a hidden switch up to your coil... Remove the single wire from the coil and attach one of the wires from the switch to it.
Attach the other switch wire to the coil where you removed the original.
Bingo! instant kill witch.

That's the one I'm thinking of.

[sideways]

I'd wire it in with the fuel cut off/idle solenoid/whatever you've got. (You didn't specify a car so yeah, 1ls have a fuel cut off, 1.3s have an idle solenoid, NFI what vits have.)

If I was to steal a Sierra (which I wouldn't) it'd be as simple as a wire to the coil and a screwdriver or whatever to short out the starter motor, bam, done, easy, bypassed any immobilser ect.. A fuel thing would be a bit more of a head fuck because practically every carb is different so it's a lot more stuffing around in a tight space and no where near as simple as just running a wire to the coil.

Speaking of kill switches.... The previous owner of my Sierra had kill switch wired in so that when the engine is turning over(with the starter motor) it will fire but when the key was returned to run it would cut spark, boy was that a head fuck the first time I accidentally knocked the switch!

[atari4x4]

buzbox wrote:

want33s wrote:

zukmeista wrote:

Maybe put a switch in the power feed to the fuel cutoff solenoid?

That won't stop it running, just idling.

Run two wires from a hidden switch up to your coil... Remove the single wire from the coil and attach one of the wires from the switch to it.
Attach the other switch wire to the coil where you removed the original.
Bingo! instant kill witch.

That's the one I'm thinking of.

+1

it's been years since i've seen it used, but on one of my cortina's instead of a switch it was a pair of bullet crimp terminals. when they were disconnected it would run, plug them together & no spark. the good thing was with it tucked up out of the way & if anyone was looking for a kill switch they couldn't find a random switch. when looking at the looms & wires under the dash it just looked like any other wire join/stereo install when activated.

[buzbox]

I'm going to use a switch that is in plain veiw, but no one would realise it's for this purpose

[SierraDan]

My old Sierra had it hooked up to the coil. Starter motor runs but motor doesn't so for all they know it doesn't start!

[Jackson]

SierraDan wrote:

My old Sierra had it hooked up to the coil. Starter motor runs but motor doesn't so for all they know it doesn't start!

Yeah but as sideways said it doesn't matter because that's how most lowlifes would pinch a sierra.

At least if it is something to do with the fuel solenoid they might get panicky that their shitty wire to coil and short starter motor didn't work and bugger off.

[2stroker]

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[SierraDan]

Yeah, if it doesn't start with a screwdriver they'll move on.

[atari4x4]

^^^ exactly and being a soft top they'll usually go that first, then when it cranks but doesn't fire... they'll move on to the camry parked 3 cars away.

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[Jackson]

Even so lets say you get that one smart thief why not just put the switch in the wire that goes from the dizzy to the coil, same amount of effort, same effect but would stop the guy who knows what he is doing.

[atari4x4]

he wouldn't be stealing a slow as fuck shitbox sierra, that's for sure.

[sando]

Jackson wrote:

Even so lets say you get that one smart thief why not just put the switch in the wire that goes from the dizzy to the coil, same amount of effort, same effect but would stop the guy who knows what he is doing.

I would like to think that the guy who knows what he is doing wouldn't have much trouble getting a sierra going. An alarm/killswitch would be your best bet IMO at least he might give up if a 100db or so is blaring in the sierra.

[Jackson]

atari4x4 wrote:

he wouldn't be stealing a slow as fuck shitbox sierra, that's for sure.

Really? Air locker switches, some nice tyres, a winch etc are all dead give aways that there is some parts worth money in it, regardless of how fully hektik fast it goes.

Pretty sure a couple of second hand lockers went on here not long ago for 900 bucks.
If had some nice muddies and rims should have no trouble getting 5-600.
Surely a winch could pull 300+ depending on brand etc.
Maybe you get lucky and there is a set of gears in the case, boom another 4-500 bucks.
Depending on model a couple of diffs might get a couple of hundred.
Head, gearbox, other odds and ends could pull another couple of hundred

Old mate fucks off with 2.5-3 grand for a 5 min job.

[Benchai]

A guy from the old Boystown told me that they fitted a fuel solenoid in the fuel lines of their vehicles, and used a double pole, double throw switch, the other side of the switch taps into the fuel guage sender line. When the thief gets the car going, it runs down the fuel in the bowl then runs out of fuel, and the guage is showing empty. I used this on an XY ute I restored, and while it wasn't stolen, my ex wife did call me saying the ute had run out of fuel. She'd forgotten to flick the switch back

[atari4x4]

Jackson wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

he wouldn't be stealing a slow as fuck shitbox sierra, that's for sure.

Really? Air locker switches, some nice tyres, a winch etc are all dead give aways that there is some parts worth money in it, regardless of how fully hektik fast it goes.

Pretty sure a couple of second hand lockers went on here not long ago for 900 bucks.
If had some nice muddies and rims should have no trouble getting 5-600.
Surely a winch could pull 300+ depending on brand etc.
Maybe you get lucky and there is a set of gears in the case, boom another 4-500 bucks.
Depending on model a couple of diffs might get a couple of hundred.
Head, gearbox, other odds and ends could pull another couple of hundred

Old mate fucks off with 2.5-3 grand for a 5 min job.

pretty sure the OP has NONE of that gear fitted to his sierra.

[Jackson]

Fully sick, let me when you and Buzbox are the only two people reading threads on here

[atari4x4]

anyone who's poured that sort of coin into a any car is a retard if they don't have a properly installed immobiliser with tilt sensor, glass break sensor & shock sensor.

if they really want your car they will take it, a simple kill switch will keep the honest thief at bay.

as an example there is a crew in adelaide knocking off silvia's/200sx's like it's going out of style, these guys are professionals & they're in & gone in 2-5 minutes with or without an alarm.

[2stroker]

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[jdk81]

Could also try an electric line lock on the brakes.
They start the car, but the brakes are perm on until you flick the switch.

Really theres endless concepts on tricks to rig up.
But tricking someone who knows what they are doing will be difficult.

And what ever you post here makes it not very useful.
Im sure most Aussies keen on seirras etc, would be aware of this site.
They can read your killswitch post, then check which car is yours etc and what mods it has, knowing how to steal it.

EDIT: spelling like a tardo

[Jackson]

2stroker wrote:

Jackson the difference between my suggestion and yours is that with yours you are running your critical ignition wire back along a couple of metres of wire and through a switch, someone can run a wire from battery to coil and it is bypasses. With my suggestion they will need to find the switch or open your loom to find where you tapped in with the earth wire.

After you upped Dan the other week for not knowing everything once upon a time I would have thought you go read up on how a fucking coil works! If there is no trigger from the dizzy the cunt doesn't spark regardless of what you do to the coil.

Extending that trigger wire would be dumb, so use a relay!

You suggestion the guy could just pull all the wires off the coil bar the dizzy one and run his own from the battery.

2stroker wrote:

Jackson there are a lot of people on this site, how many have had their Suzuki stolen for its winch, diff locks etc. If you do some research you will see that it is very very rare for a car to be stolen and stripped of parts. The exception to this is the odd spate of thefts targeting specific make like those Silvia thefts mentioned above.

Sorry I forgot you were there when this one http://www.auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=22197&hilit=LWB+stolen was stolen. Least you could do is tell him what happened to it.

2stroker wrote:

It is highly unlikely that a organised group of car thieves are going to be targeting 20 year old sierras.

I don't see why you have to be an organised group of thieves to know how to wire a car.

[stockman]

search 'engine immobiliser' on the super cheap site

there was one I have used a few times but the site is gay.

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[zukmeista]

Maybe he doesn't know everything after 12 months but I bet there's probably stuff you still don't know too.

[SierraDan]

One thing to note. In Newy 4wds are a big target for theft and a lot were from a group of people stripping them, so I can see where Jackson is coming from.

[2stroker]

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