[mark_b]

hey guys i got a 86 zook and the starter motor is crap.
and im sick and tired of it carrying on so im asking would a suzuki baleno or something like that fit a suzuki cause no wreckers here has one and i dont like paying for something i havnt seen from long distant wreckers :/

[Fatzook]

Is it a 1L or 1.3?

No, a baleno or efi vit starter will not fit. You might get a 1.6 carby vitara starter to fit, but it may need a quick grind of its housing to do so.

IMO, just buy a new one if yours is stuffed.

[cairns27]

Check that it's not the exciter wire.Someone on here has a fix for that.

bye

[atari4x4]

clicky starter fix by Shep: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14695&hilit=clicky+starter+fix

[want33s]

mark_b wrote:

hey guys i got a 86 zook and the starter motor is crap.
and im sick and tired of it carrying on so im asking would a suzuki baleno or something like that fit a suzuki cause no wreckers here has one and i dont like paying for something i havnt seen from long distant wreckers :/

But what is it doing?


Does it just click when you turn the key?
Does it just spin?
Does it grind on the flywheel?

It may be an easy fix.

[mark_b]

want33s wrote:

mark_b wrote:

hey guys i got a 86 zook and the starter motor is crap.
and im sick and tired of it carrying on so im asking would a suzuki baleno or something like that fit a suzuki cause no wreckers here has one and i dont like paying for something i havnt seen from long distant wreckers :/

But what is it doing?


Does it just click when you turn the key?
Does it just spin?
Does it grind on the flywheel?

It may be an easy fix.

it will start most of the time but i start at 5 every morning now for work and its already fucked up once. its like a grinding noise like it wont turn. so i push the car forward clutch in and first then let it out and she will start then. dunno if its sticky or what but id prefer to get another one then have to run more wires in the engine bay. already got an alarm, spotties and horn wiring but im yet to hide the wires :/

[mark_b]

Fatzook wrote:

Is it a 1L or 1.3?

No, a baleno or efi vit starter will not fit. You might get a 1.6 carby vitara starter to fit, but it may need a quick grind of its housing to do so.

IMO, just buy a new one if yours is stuffed.

yeah leaning more to a new one aswell

[BlueSuzy]

I would pull it apart, Clean it out, regrease and test. If test it ok, Straight 12V, solinoid shoots shaft out and motor spins. Should be good. Put it back in.

If its a 1.3 sierra, Its a Mitsubishi brand Starter. Lancer/mirage use the same. Last one i got, 1 hole was threaded, easy to drill out. They are Newer and better condition

Swifts wont fit either. I think they are Denso ones.

[want33s]

It probably isn't the starter but the ring gear on the flywheel.

[mark_b]

BlueSuzy wrote:

I would pull it apart, Clean it out, regrease and test. If test it ok, Straight 12V, solinoid shoots shaft out and motor spins. Should be good. Put it back in.

If its a 1.3 sierra, Its a Mitsubishi brand Starter. Lancer/mirage use the same. Last one i got, 1 hole was threaded, easy to drill out. They are Newer and better condition

Swifts wont fit either. I think they are Denso ones.

so you have used a lancer/mirage one on your zook?

[mark_b]

want33s wrote:

It probably isn't the starter but the ring gear on the flywheel.

i got told to hit it with a shifter or hammer if i didnt want to roll it then jump first?
what would that mean also?

[want33s]

mark_b wrote:

want33s wrote:

It probably isn't the starter but the ring gear on the flywheel.

i got told to hit it with a shifter or hammer if i didnt want to roll it then jump first?
what would that mean also?

Being told to hit it doesn't mean anything but if you hit it then it started it may mean the solenoid is sticky.

[mark_b]

true..

[BlueSuzy]

Yes i have used the lancer/mirage starter. Make sure its the exact same as yours though. There are some others about if you go looking for them.


My sierra starter once blew the start gear inside the starter. I pulled a complete mitsu one apart and used that gear shaft doova...

Suzuki don't make starters, They are a generic part like an alternator. So many different brands might use the same.

[mark_b]

BlueSuzy wrote:

Yes i have used the lancer/mirage starter. Make sure its the exact same as yours though. There are some others about if you go looking for them.


My sierra starter once blew the start gear inside the starter. I pulled a complete mitsu one apart and used that gear shaft doova...

Suzuki don't make starters, They are a generic part like an alternator. So many different brands might use the same.

yeah i understand you now bud.. ill pull mine of and go to the wreckers and see what they have
cheers

[want33s]

When you get the starter out grab a torch and check the flywheel ring gear to see if there are any teeth left on it.

[mark_b]

want33s wrote:

When you get the starter out grab a torch and check the flywheel ring gear to see if there are any teeth left on it.

there are teeth there but edges are really rounded on 3 of em. :/

[want33s]

mark_b wrote:

want33s wrote:

When you get the starter out grab a torch and check the flywheel ring gear to see if there are any teeth left on it.

there are teeth there but edges are really rounded on 3 of em. :/

The rounded teeth are caused by a weak solenoid not throwing the drive gear hard enough to engage properly.
The reason only 3 teeth are worn is because 4 cylinder engines will only usually come to rest in two positions 180 apart.
Turn the engine half a turn and you'll see what I mean. The teeth there may not be as bad but will have wear.

If you fit a BRAND NEW starter you'd do well to fit a good flywheel too.

[mark_b]

want33s wrote:

mark_b wrote:

want33s wrote:

When you get the starter out grab a torch and check the flywheel ring gear to see if there are any teeth left on it.

there are teeth there but edges are really rounded on 3 of em. :/

The rounded teeth are caused by a weak solenoid not throwing the drive gear hard enough to engage properly.
The reason only 3 teeth are worn is because 4 cylinder engines will only usually come to rest in two positions 180 apart.
Turn the engine half a turn and you'll see what I mean. The teeth there may not be as bad but will have wear.

If you fit a BRAND NEW starter you'd do well to fit a good flywheel too.

may aswell do clutch and oil. cause gearbox is the only one i havnt touched yet oil wise, since owning it

[want33s]

mark_b wrote:

may aswell do clutch and oil. cause gearbox is the only one i havnt touched yet oil wise, since owning it

The clutch may have tens of thousands of K's in it yet so don't race out and buy a new one just yet, but it's certainly worth changing the oil.

[cairns27]

Not exatlly tradesman like,but if ya got no cash for a new ring gear, you can lay under there with a triangleler file and clean up the teeth that are dashed. works.

bye

[mark_b]

cairns27 wrote:

Not exatlly tradesman like,but if ya got no cash for a new ring gear, you can lay under there with a triangleler file and clean up the teeth that are dashed. works.

bye

ill be getting a new one

[want33s]

cairns27 wrote:

Not exatlly tradesman like,but if ya got no cash for a new ring gear, you can lay under there with a triangleler file and clean up the teeth that are dashed. works.

bye

If the starter has ground the ringgear teeth down to the point where it won't engage properly then no amount of filing with a 'triangleler' file will bring them back.

[mark_b]

want33s wrote:

cairns27 wrote:

Not exatlly tradesman like,but if ya got no cash for a new ring gear, you can lay under there with a triangleler file and clean up the teeth that are dashed. works.

bye

If the starter has ground the ringgear teeth down to the point where it won't engage properly then no amount of filing with a 'triangleler' file will bring them back.

haha

[cairns27]

Auto Electrician did it to a ratsun I had. Fixed starter problem.

bye

[zedboy]

What model lancer/mirage use this starter motor?

BlueSuzy wrote:

I would pull it apart, Clean it out, regrease and test. If test it ok, Straight 12V, solinoid shoots shaft out and motor spins. Should be good. Put it back in.

If its a 1.3 sierra, Its a Mitsubishi brand Starter. Lancer/mirage use the same. Last one i got, 1 hole was threaded, easy to drill out. They are Newer and better condition

Swifts wont fit either. I think they are Denso ones.

[BlueSuzy]

1st Aus delivered shape Mirage. 99'??

Not the brand new one. 13'