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gutshot
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:19 am Posts: 19
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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hello i have a set of discovery 1 diff that i want to install into my suzuki, my main concern is how to connect the steering bracket, i want to keep the sierra steering box, but am unsure how to connect it to the disco diff, is the a company that does that sought of work,
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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I'd say that's the least of your problems. Land Rover axles are a good choice but there's going to be quite a few issues to overcome, least of all gearing.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:55 am |
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disco axles are renowned for being weak! id be looking elsewhere for diffs
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watermouse

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Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 868
Vehicle: zook
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Discovery axles have the tie rod on the back don't they, like a Jimny? I would say that if you really want this axle it will be a coil conversion too.
Weak under a heavy V8 rover yes, under a Suzuki probably not so much.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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having seen them up close they are actually smaller in diameter in places than stock zook rear axle shafts.
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watermouse

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Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 868
Vehicle: zook
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Did Rover ever upgrade their axle shafts with power increases over the years? Reading one of Len Beadell's books, snapping axles in the bush was almost a daily occurence during his explorations in the 50's. Back then I would imagine a landrover having about the same power output as a stock sierra.
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henno

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Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 2439 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Which one?
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 Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:35 pm |
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Yes they did. At some point in the 90's they went from 10-spline to 24-spline.
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watermouse

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Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 868
Vehicle: zook
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 that is quite a jump.
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ZUZUKI
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:50 am Posts: 427 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB, '99 GV 2.5L
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The shaft diameter didn't change, but when 10 splines are cut in a shaft, they are naturally chunky & deep. Going to 24 spline, the root diameter went up, as well as the number of contact points for transmitting the torque load. There are lots of off the shelf up-grades for rover axles, because, as Tanshi says, they are a bit under done for the typical tyre up-grade from 28" to 32" tyres + added weight of accessories. There are also lots of aftermarket ratios for the diffs - 3.54:1 std; then 3.75:1; a factory ratio (now rare) 3.9:1; 4.11:1; another factory ratio at 4.7:1 & still lower if you want it. Lots of locker choices as well, but this will end up being an expensive pair of axles, if all those changes / upgrades are required. Early (Series 2/3, Stage one) diffs of the late 1958s-early1980s have a narrower track width - more like a Sierra would want to end up at. A Discovery / Range Rover axle is 4" (100mm) wider. There are crazy cats in the UK, who put Sierra bodies onto a Disco chassis & running gear - frankly, they look silly, have the ability of a L-R, with less interior space & practicality. Would be a real struggle to get engineered for the road, I would suggest. Good luck with it though.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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Rover upgraded the strength of their axles by making the cars constant 4wd. True story.
I don't believe there would be a serious strength problem under a Sierra running common, vaguely sensible tyre sizes. The drag link isn't a serious issue. The location of the diff pumpkins, gearing, brakes, huge track width etc are all major factors.
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