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Bad Goat
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:37 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: 1988 US Samurai
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Just saying hi from the United States. I joined the board to get a little more info on the G13BB. I’m thinking about swapping one into my 1988 Samurai, which it not a common swap here. If anyone has any input on g13bb vs g13a I’d like to hear it. Most people here do a g16, but that involves more lifting than I’d care to do on my Zuk. 
Last edited by Bad Goat on Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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You can squeeze a g16b in without any lift.
While the g13bb isnt common, it would be an improvement, but I would do a g16b. G16b from a baleno/esteem/cultus would be my pick, as they are the newest, and neatest installed.
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Bad Goat
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:37 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: 1988 US Samurai
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 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:11 am |
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jdk81 wrote: You can squeeze a g16b in without any lift.
While the g13bb isnt common, it would be an improvement, but I would do a g16b. G16b from a baleno/esteem/cultus would be my pick, as they are the newest, and neatest installed. I've read that you need a small body lift for the hood clearance? I was also under the impression the oil pan doesn't clear unless you want to put the smaller samurai oil pick up and pan on it. Am I wrong, because that would be awesome.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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My 1.6 has no body lift Samurai sump is fine just has the hump positioned for diff clearance
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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Swap to samurai sump and pickup.
There would be hundreds of samurais/Sierra's running the g13 sump and pickup on a g16 without issue.
If your chosen tyre size demands bumpstop spacing you may be able to run a tracker/kick sump and pickup. I do in my car.
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Bad Goat
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:37 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: 1988 US Samurai
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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:41 pm |
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Are you gus running 8v 1.6 engines then? They must not have a crank postiom sensor then.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9715 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Find a Suzuki Baleno/Esteem, Hard to say what models you got over there. You got at least one model G16B with a dizzy on the back of the head. You can change the cam from an efi Vitara/Tracker. Another option if you have it, The later Esteem had no dizzy, Twin coils on the cam cover, No need for a body lift on either esteem motors, easier fit depending on your skills in some fab work for a sump sensor and rerouting water from the back of the head. Dizzy  Twin Coils 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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You just modify the sump to suit. Cut and weld the baleno ckp sensor part from baleno sump into the sierra/samurai sump.
I have a vit/tracker/sidekick 16v 1.6 in one car, its a little high and the intake routing sucks. I have a baleno/esteem in my other sierra/samurai. But more effort on the sump, but overall much neater and it sits lower.
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Bad Goat
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:37 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: 1988 US Samurai
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 Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:10 am |
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Thanks for all info. We didn't have any carbureted 1.6s, so that's not a problem. We did have a few 1.6 vehicles with a cam sensor instead of a dizzy. I'll look into that direction.
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