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Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:18 am 
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Just saying hi from the United States. I joined the board to get a little more info on the G13BB. I’m thinking about swapping one into my 1988 Samurai, which it not a common swap here. If anyone has any input on g13bb vs g13a I’d like to hear it. Most people here do a g16, but that involves more lifting than I’d care to do on my Zuk.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:44 am 
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You can squeeze a g16b in without any lift.

While the g13bb isnt common, it would be an improvement, but I would do a g16b.
G16b from a baleno/esteem/cultus would be my pick, as they are the newest, and neatest installed.

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:11 am 
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jdk81 wrote:
You can squeeze a g16b in without any lift.

While the g13bb isnt common, it would be an improvement, but I would do a g16b.
G16b from a baleno/esteem/cultus would be my pick, as they are the newest, and neatest installed.


I've read that you need a small body lift for the hood clearance? I was also under the impression the oil pan doesn't clear unless you want to put the smaller samurai oil pick up and pan on it. Am I wrong, because that would be awesome.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:21 am 
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My 1.6 has no body lift
Samurai sump is fine just has the hump positioned for diff clearance

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:14 am 
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Swap to samurai sump and pickup.

There would be hundreds of samurais/Sierra's running the g13 sump and pickup on a g16 without issue.

If your chosen tyre size demands bumpstop spacing you may be able to run a tracker/kick sump and pickup. I do in my car.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:41 pm 
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Are you gus running 8v 1.6 engines then? They must not have a crank postiom sensor then.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:03 pm 
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Find a Suzuki Baleno/Esteem, Hard to say what models you got over there. You got at least one model G16B with a dizzy on the back of the head. You can change the cam from an efi Vitara/Tracker. Another option if you have it, The later Esteem had no dizzy, Twin coils on the cam cover, No need for a body lift on either esteem motors, easier fit depending on your skills in some fab work for a sump sensor and rerouting water from the back of the head.
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:51 pm 
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You just modify the sump to suit.
Cut and weld the baleno ckp sensor part from baleno sump into the sierra/samurai sump.

I have a vit/tracker/sidekick 16v 1.6 in one car, its a little high and the intake routing sucks.
I have a baleno/esteem in my other sierra/samurai.
But more effort on the sump, but overall much neater and it sits lower.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:10 am 
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Thanks for all info. We didn't have any carbureted 1.6s, so that's not a problem. We did have a few 1.6 vehicles with a cam sensor instead of a dizzy. I'll look into that direction.

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