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Author:  Ratman407 [ Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:33 pm ]
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So I got to do the suspension and I’m debating on going with lifter 1” or 2” or just staying stock height
What is the advantage of lifting and if I go lifted what else do I need to buy to do it ?

She’s mainly used as a daily driver atm but with some 4wd on the weekends
Pretty much stock but running 235-75-15 muddys when 4wd

I’m guessing the lifted springs will give me more travel ?
Author:  alien [ Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:38 pm ]
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You won't get more travel from lifted springs, you'll get less. =)
Author:  Toomanycars [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:00 am ]
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NOT !! Leave it stock with good tyres.. Body lift just raises your center of gravity LOL, but does allow for bigger tyres but that just introduces other problems with gearing etc.. You will get more travel by taking your sway bars off but not if you are using it on the road and nothing is going to help you with greater ground clearance except tyres and there are a lot of 4wd out there with 35 and bigger, tearing up the tracks making it hard for everyone with 32 etc to not bottom out. It is hard to stop once you start changing stuff unless you have the knowledge, the tools and the time and money to do it ALL ...
Author:  Ratman407 [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:56 am ]
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Yeah that was pretty much my thoughts but if you ask Facebook you prettt much get told you have to lift
Bigger tires are the only way to get clearance

I do all the work my self

Anybody know of some good kits to do it all?
Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:33 am ]
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Old man emu probably do the most comfortable and decent quality kit. Cheap and nasty kits will have your spine in tatters on the rough stuff.
Skinny 30/31"s with the correct offset rim are possible on a stock height sierra
Author:  Marko_SJ [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:35 am ]
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Ratman407 wrote:
Yeah that was pretty much my thoughts but if you ask Facebook you prettt much get told you have to lift
Bigger tires are the only way to get clearance

I do all the work my self

Anybody know of some good kits to do it all?


If you don't want to cut guards, do a body lift.

That's what I did and the car did not drive noticeably different, and no more scrubbing.
Author:  Ratman407 [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:38 am ]
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Havnt had them rub yet but going 4wd this weekend so we will see I only use them for 4wd and run roads 90% of the time

Will look in old man emu
Any clue who the supplier is for them ?
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:51 pm ]
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Old man Emu comes from ARB.

They will rub.
They will still rub with a suspension lift.

Only body lift, bumpstop spacing or guard cutting stops rub. Suspension lift does not.
Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:52 pm ]
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Or a hammer
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:22 pm ]
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Well yes.
Author:  Angus Martin [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:35 pm ]
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Ruf and 2" lift in the back with either OME or EFS springs is a good combo for flex/ride/height/stability/tyre clearance.
Author:  Eddy [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:57 pm ]
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Body lift quick and easy, and makes little difference to drive-ability of the car. Contrary to popular perception, body lift does not raise the centre of gravity by all that much. A 2 inch spring lift takes the whole vehicle above the bushes upwards by 2 inches, raising the cog accordingly, whereas a 2" body lift leaves half of the vehicle at the same height, and only the tin-work, seats and glass go upwards, so the cog increase is much less.
Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:40 pm ]
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The body is suprisingly heavy
Author:  Ratman407 [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:51 pm ]
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Wasn’t trying to put the lift in for the tires
Was just wonder what point there is to suspension lift when your diff is still at the same hidght
I don’t see the point in any sort of lift
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:00 pm ]
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There is a point- in increase in compression travel can increase the speed you can travel across rough terrain. If that’s important. The front of sierras, in particular, have very little compression travel and in order to prevent harsh contact with the bumpstop, more shock rate is required to slow the axle before it crashes into the bumpstop.

So, a small suspension lift can allow a softer spring and shock rate which can improve ride and handling at speed.
Author:  Ratman407 [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:34 pm ]
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That’s the info I needed cheers

Think I will stick with stock height
Author:  Eddy [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:44 pm ]
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MrRocky wrote:
The body is suprisingly heavy


Depends on the vehicle .. :?
Vitara body weighs a bit ... LJ50 body at risk of floating off on a breezy day
Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:45 pm ]
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Im talking wt sierra
Author:  Ratman407 [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:52 pm ]
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Went to arb and apparently there don’t offer any stock high only 40mm life
$1800 with fitting doesn’t seem to bad but
I was aiming to stick stock heigh
40mm really going to a large impact on body roll when off road ?
And yes I know that questions a shit one lol
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:24 pm ]
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Body roll will increase. This isn’t a bad thing because the other elements of suspension behaviour (reduced spring rate, improved ride) compensate somewhat.

If you are really concerned about the height, you can remove a leaf to lower the car, which will increase body roll more, but will lower centre of gravity.
Author:  MrRocky [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:45 pm ]
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Add some width via offset rims/spacers to compensate for the extra height. Adverse effects on bearings ect... arnt really an issue and the extra stability makes up for any mechanical pitfalls.
Author:  Angus Martin [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:35 pm ]
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Not hard to fit the suspension yourself if you want to save some money for a rear spool or towards gearing or something
Author:  alien [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:57 pm ]
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re: Bearings - since i had suzistore do my wheel bearings they've *touch wood* lasted me about 2-3 years, and that's running 15x7-38mm rims!!!

Previous workshop didn't follow the manual with regard to re-torquing etc.

So in my mind, wheel bearings are a non issue with offset rims so long as they're done just like suzuki intended.
Author:  Ratman407 [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:16 pm ]
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I’m planning on doing it my self that’s just the quote there gave me

Anything need to be factored in ? Like extended brakes or something?
Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:50 pm ]
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Thats something to look at once done but be aware of there age it may be something to renew. Just new u bolts and be aware drivers side (i think) has a larger ubolt near the diff pumpkin
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:04 am ]
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Stock brakelines are just long enough for the OME kit.
Author:  sideways [ Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:09 am ]
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The OME front shocks are only 10mm longer than standard sierra ones, there's no need to worry about brake lines.

Gwagensteve wrote:
There is a point- in increase in compression travel


This is exactly why I want to lift mine. I only want a modest lift (40-50mm) and that will double my current front suspension travel. If I can maintain something near the stock spring rates then it should make for a substantial increase in ride comfort and still drive quite well.

I've gone to far with this in my LJ. It's running extremely soft springs with lots of camber (arc/lift) in the springs so it has quite a lot of up travel. The ride is absolutely fantastic for a Suzuki but it has ridiculous body roll and it leans terribly on the slightest of side hills. Ultimately it was much more enjoyable to drive with the stiffer/lower suspension.
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