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| Author: | Jack jr [ Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | lwb vs swb 1l |
G'day i have a swb tin top 1l sierra with 52000km and a bit of rust, I was going to do it up but was wondering if it would be a better idea to find a 1l ute and put all the good parts on it, just interested to here peoples opinions. Cheers Jack. |
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| Author: | ZUZUKI [ Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: lwb vs swb 1l |
Not a bad idea in theory, but in practice, hard to find a 1.0litre ute in decent condition to make it worthwhile. Genuine Suzuki 1.0litres stopped in 1985 = 34 years old minimum. A Maruti ute is going to be easier to find & later (to approx, 1996). Most were sold to farmers who used them as a commercial vehicle, worked hard & often maintained / repaired in not your usual ways. Most of these will be cut down into tray back utes by the Aust. importers. Having said that, there are a few up-sides to a LWB car & few down-sides, so worth keeping a look out for one. Tin tops are also rare, but boy, can they rust & rust is what often ultimately kills a Sierra. Rgs, Michael |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: lwb vs swb 1l |
It depends what you want the car to do, how tall you are and everything that Michael said. It's also worth clarifying what you mean. There are LWB style side sierras - in 1.0 litre form some had a back seat, some didn't. No Suzuki 1.0litre had a bulkhead behind the cab like a Maruti, and none came from the factory with any sort of hard top or ute cab, although many canopies were fitted aftermarket. These are now very hard to find. They were uncommon anyway and most have rotted away or been worn out. the 1.0 tray back is more common as these were very popular with farmers. but along with Michael's comments, they're also pretty cramped. In factory form they had fixed, non adjustable seats to maximise interior room. Improving these (truly terrible) seats reduces leg and arm room even more. The disadvantages of the LWB is they aren't very manoeuvrable - the difference in turning circle and where they fit is noticeable compared to a SWB, and if you use the space there's obviously miles more room to work with. However, there's no increase in GVM, so that's just more room to overload the car, and they are (obviously) heavier from the outset. The styleside car has lots of rear overhang, and it was common to "bob" them back to close to SWB rear overhang. The other disadvantage of the tray back is centre of gravity. The load height required to get a flat deck puts the payload about 200mm higher than in a styleside. The advantages are improved ride through less pitching, improved climbing ability and more space under the car for fuel tank/suspension/batteries etc to play together nicely. |
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| Author: | Jack jr [ Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: lwb vs swb 1l |
thanks for your replies, I meant to say tray back, i would be keeping my sj70 for 4wd trips and the 1l would be more of a daily driver and something to drive when the sj70 is needing work. cheers Jack |
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: lwb vs swb 1l |
Gwagensteve wrote: the 1.0 tray back is more common as these were very popular with farmers. The disadvantages of the LWB is ....... there's no increase in GVM, so that's just more room to overload the car, and they are (obviously) heavier from the outset. The other disadvantage of the tray back is centre of gravity. The load height required to get a flat deck puts the payload about 200mm higher than in a styleside. The advantages are improved ride through less pitching, improved climbing ability and more space under the car for fuel tank/suspension/batteries etc to play together nicely. Maybe we should clarify between the LWB Maruti converted to a trayback, and the Suzuki factory Ute. The Maruti has the same 250Kg load capacity as a standard LWB or SWB Softtop, but the Factory Ute has a 400Kg capacity. The factory Ute actually has quite a comfortable cab size. I'm 6'4' and have eaten a few pies, and the cab interior is quite sufficient. However, there is no room for much else, with little room behind the seats. The Maruti conversions have slightly more room behind the seats, but still not a lot. An LJ81 cab is the worst cramped Suzuki made. |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: lwb vs swb 1l |
Don’t SWB and LWB have the same GVM? The Japanese practice of having payload stickers on the back door is highly misleading. |
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| Author: | Jack jr [ Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: lwb vs swb 1l |
G'day everyone just a quick update i am buying a 1l tray back off of brad might be picking it up today. Cheers Jack. |
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