[pyrohamish]

Any reason not to get a Warn Works 4700lb winch

http://www.warn.com/works/dcwinches/DC4700.shtml

found one 2nd hand for $400
only going on a sierra.....so don't reckon i need a massive winch anyway

[shep]

mate it is only a little bit more cash to get a proper winch.

[BlueSuzy]

Just bought an aldi winch for $400. 9500lbs.

I bet that warn will cost more. To pull less!

[Jord]

I recon it would do the job, But only just, 4700lbs is only about 2.1 tons,

Sure a zook weight nothing close to that, But one you add weight of passengers, gear in the cab, the steal winch plate/bull bar, dual batteries etc (guess you will be running em if you have a winch) you will be close to 1 1/2 tonn that is ofcourse going on the assumption that a zook's kerb weight is 930kg as redbook states.


1 1/2 ton still isnt 2.1 tonn, tru, But you also wouldnt be using a winch to pull yourself along a nice flat the road, U will usually be using it because your bogged, And if you have all four wheels down to the axles in mud or sand, you will be adding alot of extra weight to what the winch has to pull, so lets just assume ur down to the axels in mudd and have no traction with your wheels you will defiantly be pulling very close to that 2.1 tons.


that said if the spool can handle a long length of rope, and you can double up with a snatch block back to the car/chassis on those tricky situations (deep bogs), you will have something like twice the pulling power ( i think) that is why i think i will do the job, But i wouldnt be bothering unless it was a very good price, and imo 400 isnt a verry good price. even for a warn.


just my thoughts on it.
Jordan

[dank]

bonus is its light, so you won't notice it on the front, you would probably need to double line pull out of bogs but i reckon winching up rocks wouldn't overload it.

Permanant magnet motors don't have the same capacity as a series wound motor and I reckon if it was constantly loaded up to its rated pulling capacity you will find the motor won't last long. Warn shit is expensive to replace.

I reckon it will definitely do the job, but if you spent a few hundred dollars more you will get better value for money even from the chinese winches.

[lump_a_charcoal]

Jord wrote:

I recon it would do the job, But only just, 4700lbs is only about 2.1 tons,

Sure a zook weight nothing close to that, But one you add weight of passengers, gear in the cab, the steal winch plate/bull bar, dual batteries etc (guess you will be running em if you have a winch) you will be close to 1 1/2 tonn that is ofcourse going on the assumption that a zook's kerb weight is 930kg as redbook states.


1 1/2 ton still isnt 2.1 tonn, tru, But you also wouldnt be using a winch to pull yourself along a nice flat the road, U will usually be using it because your bogged, And if you have all four wheels down to the axles in mud or sand, you will be adding alot of extra weight to what the winch has to pull, so lets just assume ur down to the axels in mudd and have no traction with your wheels you will defiantly be pulling very close to that 2.1 tons.


that said if the spool can handle a long length of rope, and you can double up with a snatch block back to the car/chassis on those tricky situations (deep bogs), you will have something like twice the pulling power ( i think) that is why i think i will do the job, But i wouldnt be bothering unless it was a very good price, and imo 400 isnt a verry good price. even for a warn.


just my thoughts on it.
Jordan

If the winch is rated to 2.1T, that means it should be able to pull 2.1T off the ground into the air (like in "The Gods must be Crazy").

I think in most situations it would be fine, unless you had to recover something bigger, which to be honest are the ones who usually get stuck anyway.

Get 9500lbs as a minimum I reckon.

[Fatzook]

Ive seen the M6000 work quite weell on a sierra. I think the 4700 will be too light. But my choice would be an M8000 with plasma rope, not steel cable. The weight saving will offset the larger winch.

Hit google and look at the USA sites. you can get STUNNING deals on warn winches with rope or cable. send it sea freight and waite 6-8 weeks to save some money.

[Fatzook]

4wheelonline/m8000+hawsefairlead

$700 US. Shipping would be less than $75US. Probably $900 AUD landed. Get that price from ARB

[lordfury007]

dank wrote:

Permanant magnet motors don't have the same capacity as a series wound motor and I reckon if it was constantly loaded up to its rated pulling capacity you will find the motor won't last long. Warn shit is expensive to replace.

The quoted pulling power should be less than what it is actually capable of, and the winch should be able to continuously pull that weight without putting undue stress on the motor.

Warn winches are pretty good, I'd expect them to last - the problem is that you don't know how much strain you are putting on the winch, and as soon as you go over the rated amount you will start breaking things.

[dm90]

lump_a_charcoal wrote:

If the winch is rated to 2.1T, that means it should be able to pull 2.1T off the ground into the air (like in "The Gods must be Crazy").

I think in most situations it would be fine, unless you had to recover something bigger, which to be honest are the ones who usually get stuck anyway.

Get 9500lbs as a minimum I reckon.

watched that yesterday, pretty funny. my mate just bought a land rover almost the same as that one.

how much do the winches weigh?? also is the plasma rope as strong as steel cable??