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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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I have never used nutserts before and I'm having a few probs. When I crimp them in they tend to pull the threaded part of the insert to one side rather then staying in the centre which doesn't allow the bolt to screw in? Any suggestions on what would cause this? What am I doing wrong?
I used a big twin lever nutsert tool to pull them up
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:29 pm |
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Not enough pressure?
Are they alloy serts?
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Stainless inserts and they seemed to crush ok still a little off centre in the test piece but the first in the guards the bolt got jammed grrr
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:38 pm |
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I have had some be ever so slightly off centre. It seems to pull towards the handle.
On bike frames I go almost full pressure then turn the tool 180 degrees and then go full pressure. This gets it in the centre.
On Guards this might be a little hard to do.
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:41 pm |
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Were u using a small tool like pop rivet gun? I'm gonna try one of these next and I'll try the 180 trick see how it goes
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:42 pm |
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Yep, like a pop rivet gun.
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:50 pm |
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Yea this one was a massive one that has to handles kinda like a pair of garden branch cutters
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:56 pm |
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Never used one of those but you would think it would pull pretty central.
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:00 pm |
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Yea that's why I'm thinking i did something wrong
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banga
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 668 Location: sunshine coast
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i think you are pulling it up to tight we use them all the time at work and the only time we have trouble with them is when someone pulls it up to tight it pulls off center and we put stainless bolts in ours so that becomes a problem cause the bolts bind up. you dont actualy need that much pressure on them for them to grab.
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andrew88

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Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 185 Location: south brissy
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also is there a bur on the under side. might cause that.
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:12 pm |
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too tight is the usual cause
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:12 pm |
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Another thing to consider is that stainless threads damage very easily and quite often strip out as the metal ia alot more brittle than steel. Consider getting some normal zinc steel nutserts. But more reliable than the SS ones, and they tend to crimp better also.
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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Yeh nutserts are like sump and diff plugs. You dont tighten the hell out of them, they arent holding up the car.
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Could be the burrs actually. I didn't deburr the inside of the holes. And possibly to tight I'll retry some in some scrap
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Westie

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To tight and with those big handles you may find that you are not square on the job. What size serts are you using "Thread size" I have 3 tools here doing up to 5/16" when doing them up you will find it is hard to start off and then it becomes easy then hard again that is as firm as they should go.
Differand serts have differant feels to them and also some have ribs on the back of the flange to helh grip better.
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:39 am |
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Thread is m5. They are stainless with ribs. I'm trying the small tool this arvo
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