It is currently Mon Aug 03, 2026 1:40 am
Board index » Talking About Stuff » Suzuki Talk



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message


Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:32 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
Gday guys,

I just purchased an Ironman 35mm lift kit which is yet to be delivered and was wondering If i could also use 30/15mm coil spacers with this kit.

Would it give me any diff/CV drama or make the spring length too long for the shocks?

I dont go that hard off road I just want to make sure I have enough clearance for 215 or 235 tyres that ill be putting on soon.

CHEERS

p.s. fkn suzuki genuine parts wanted $290 for one g16b injector!

  

Offline
az supporter
az supporter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:30 pm
Posts: 1787
Location: Butler, WA

Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:12 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
That would be 65mm lift overall which is going to be stretching the friendship a little with the CVs. Probably better to stick to 50mm overall unless you plan on other mods (dropping the front diff etc).

The shocks should still be fine, as all you will be doing is moving where they sit in their range of travel. Keep in mind you won't get any extra flex/down travel from it though, all you will be doing is making the car sit a little higher.

If you want more down travel on the rear, use a shock mount relocator and extend the rear bump stops (to protect the shocks from bottoming out). You will lose uptravel from doing this, but if you've got bigger boots they will likely be fouling well before the shocks hit maximum compression anyway so its a win-win situation.

Pretty sure 235/75/15 tyres will fit on there with just the 35mm lift though, so if you don't cane it offroad might be best to just stick to that to keep it as reliable as possible.

_________________
Moses' SQ625 GV Pig

 Profile  


Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:48 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
thanks moses
yeah i think id like to stick to the reliable option for now. i can always add them later if necessary

  

Offline
az supporter
az supporter

Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm
Posts: 10453
Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep

Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:19 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
ninjamoses wrote:
The shocks should still be fine, as all you will be doing is moving where they sit in their range of travel. Keep in mind you won't get any extra flex/down travel from it though, all you will be doing is making the car sit a little higher.

If you want more down travel on the rear, use a shock mount relocator and extend the rear bump stops (to protect the shocks from bottoming out). You will lose uptravel from doing this, but if you've got bigger boots they will likely be fouling well before the shocks hit maximum compression anyway so its a win-win situation.


The shocks in those Ironman kits, are extended shocks, or thats what i was told when i inquired about them for my now gone 89 Vit... will be getting one of those Ironman kits for my GV as soon as i save enough... he he... :wink: :lol:

 Profile WWW  

Offline
az supporter
az supporter

Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm
Posts: 2191
Location: Vic
Vehicle: SJ50 hardtop!

Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:11 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
I thought about putting spacers on-top of my "soon-to-be" calmini springs but you'd probably be pushing ya CV's to some wicked angles and the springs would most likely become quite stiff.

Might be ok if you wanan throw a bigger set of muddies on for the weekend or something though.

_________________
NT SJ50

 Profile  

Offline
az supporter
az supporter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm
Posts: 34842
Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's

Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:24 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
bucket, there is no real need to add spacers to the calmini kit unless you want to build a sky scraper? spacers won't make you springs any "stiffer" but they will get coil bind earlier on compression & they will over extend the struts & CV's on extension.

31's are plenty enough for a vitara, unless you do something about gearing.

_________________
You're just hating because you don't understand

 Profile WWW  

Offline
az supporter
az supporter

Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm
Posts: 2191
Location: Vic
Vehicle: SJ50 hardtop!

Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:35 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
I had "thought" about it. I figured I didn't wanna break CVs but the coil bind never occured to me.

I had kinda wanted to do it origionally to run 33s for competing down the line, but 31s will work :)

_________________
NT SJ50

 Profile  


Post Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:05 pm 
Reply with quote Top  
Ok so today i went and bought some sunnies and tyres and now i am even more paranoid about the guards rubbing (none of it has arrived or been fitted yet)

i bought 235/75 R5 nankang muddies with quite an aggressive tread

the rear im not worried about so ill be using my 30mm coil spacer's with the ironman lift kit

the front i am worried about the rubbing and the CV's angle...i think i will put in some 10mm spacer's with the ironman kit just to be sure its as high as possible

I know its probably not the smartest bet without lowering the diff but the yanks seem to think anything upto 3" will be 'safe enough' on thier sidekick forums

was very interesting to see that buying the ironman kit on ebay was cheaper than buying it from ironman themselves (including shipping from perth to melbourne)

  

Offline

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:14 am
Posts: 83
Location: South Aus

Post Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:54 am 
Reply with quote Top  
tommop wrote:
Ok so today i went and bought some sunnies and tyres and now i am even more paranoid about the guards rubbing (none of it has arrived or been fitted yet)

i bought 235/75 R5 nankang muddies with quite an aggressive tread

the rear im not worried about so ill be using my 30mm coil spacer's with the ironman lift kit

the front i am worried about the rubbing and the CV's angle...i think i will put in some 10mm spacer's with the ironman kit just to be sure its as high as possible

I know its probably not the smartest bet without lowering the diff but the yanks seem to think anything upto 3" will be 'safe enough' on thier sidekick forums

was very interesting to see that buying the ironman kit on ebay was cheaper than buying it from ironman themselves (including shipping from perth to melbourne)


Mind if I ask the price you got the Iron man kit for? just purchased it myself

Cheers

 Profile  

Offline
az supporter
az supporter

Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm
Posts: 10453
Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep

Post Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:08 am 
Reply with quote Top  
tommop wrote:
was very interesting to see that buying the ironman kit on ebay was cheaper than buying it from ironman themselves (including shipping from perth to melbourne)


Yeah the guys on ebay are resellers, they dont have a store as such, so dont have the store charges to add on, so they are cheaper, and usually have free shipping... :lol:

So is everything in and on now, if so, how do you find it ? :D

 Profile WWW  

Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm
Posts: 4972
Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted

Post Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:33 am 
Reply with quote Top  
I run 40mm coils and 15mm spacers in the front of my GV and with the Diff drop brackets my CV angles are fine If not better than most Gv's ive seen with just coil lifts. Now its the struts that actually restrict down travel.

_________________
B4T


Built by me to be driven like a rental

 Profile  

Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm
Posts: 1157
Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ

Post Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:47 am 
Reply with quote Top  
Dudes you guys need to be sending me PMs with your suspension inquiries. I reckon I can match Ironman, or get very close with better quality kits from probably most suppliers. Support a fellow auszooker not some nameless ebay store! In return I'll look after you as best I can! Remember there's no harm in asking! :D

I've had good success with both EFS and Dobinsons suspension for vitaras. Dobinsons have the longest available strut for the Vitaras, I think EFS springs are more refined when it comes to spring rates. RidePro are also another quality mid range kit.

_________________
LIKE US ON FACEBOOK - KPD4x4

 Profile WWW  

Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm
Posts: 4972
Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted

Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:41 am 
Reply with quote Top  
dank wrote:
Dudes you guys need to be sending me PMs with your suspension inquiries. I reckon I can match Ironman, or get very close with better quality kits from probably most suppliers. Support a fellow auszooker not some nameless ebay store! In return I'll look after you as best I can! Remember there's no harm in asking! :D

I've had good success with both EFS and Dobinsons suspension for vitaras. Dobinsons have the longest available strut for the Vitaras, I think EFS springs are more refined when it comes to spring rates. RidePro are also another quality mid range kit.



Hell yeh. I get my stuff through Dank when ever i can. So far he has helped me with the winch, optima battery, and lots of advise. His prices are usually better than if not equal to his competitors. Ive also got a mate that owns a auto parts store and he easily matches the big stores prices.


Support your local boys and they will look after you as best they can.

_________________
B4T


Built by me to be driven like a rental

 Profile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

Jump to:  


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 271 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum
Untitled Document


Untitled Document


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group :: Style based on FI Subice by phpBBservice.nl :: All times are UTC + 9:30 hours