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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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Hi Guys
I bought some 15X7 rims and 31" tyres from jas at sunshine coast sierra wreckers, sadly they scrape at full lock (both directions) on my newly installed lifted springs!!! (91 sierra SJ70 swb)
Jas has suggested installing longer bolts in the swivel hubs to decrease steering lock.
I have used the search function but can't find anything about it on the forum. Can anyone point me in the direction of a how to? or offer advice?
Barring this ill probably just have to buy some 235/75s to stop the problem but id rather not buy more tyres if i dont have to, plus the 31s look great!!!
Cheers all
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Just turn the steering wheel less 
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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thanks royce, ive been utilising that theory for the last day and a half!!! makes getting in and out of the driveway at home hard!!!
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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longer bolts are only going to do the same thing as turning the wheel less far.
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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but will they physically stop the wheels from turning far enough to hit?
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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thats the idea yeah.
i just welded a nut onto the top of the steering stop bolt.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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lukemc wrote: but will they physically stop the wheels from turning far enough to hit?
yes but you will also have less steering
Just let em hit 
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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lol fair enough, i was actually worried about ripping the tyres to bits, but i guess if im gonna replace them i may as well get a few months out of them first!
cheers guys
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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lukemc wrote: lol fair enough, i was actually worried about ripping the tyres to bits, but i guess if im gonna replace them i may as well get a few months out of them first!
cheers guys
I have Suzuki rolling chassis here where a tyre has slowly worn away a good part of the leaf spring pack!  .
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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my offset helps to clear the springs.
15x8 rim with -25 offset.
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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Thanks 303zuke excellent help
Yeah dan obviously the offset on these isn't right for mine, lesson learnt by me to check b4 you buy!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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Highway-Star wrote: lukemc wrote: lol fair enough, i was actually worried about ripping the tyres to bits, but i guess if im gonna replace them i may as well get a few months out of them first!
cheers guys I have Suzuki rolling chassis here where a tyre has slowly worn away a good part of the leaf spring pack!  .
now thems some good ruber
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
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SierraDan wrote: my offset helps to clear the springs. 15x8 rim with -25 offset.
15x7 -13 fits too, i have more than a cm of space at full lock between tyre and spring
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Wheel spacers?
They come in varying sizes.
PM Dank if you want to go that way.
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FHA57

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Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:35 am Posts: 179 Location: sunshine coast
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i run 15x7 neg 12 30x9.5 best combo ive had so far
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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i went down to bob jane today and got them to fit up 2 235/75/15s to test them
They still hit b4 getting to full lock on the springs..............
ill measure the offset tomorrow , but they rang king wheels while i was there and they confirmed the rims i have "should" be able to run 31"s without hitting suspension.........
is it at all possible i have a NT? its a 1991 model with metal flares
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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finally got around to measuring the offset on the rims i have and as far as i can tell its negative 13!
im gonna try this bolt fix soon
Slow process i know! and sadly the misses is hitting me up to sell the suzy as we have hit some hard times cash wise.....
i did offer to sell her cats instead but i don't think they would fetch much!!!
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dawsey
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 218 Location: perth
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my 235,s just scrapped on full lock.stuck a washer behind the nut on the hub seal ..problem solved..probably lost about 1/8 of a turn on the steering wheel on full lock...washer is as good as a $10 bolt
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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Its odd your having so much trouble with not amazingly huge wheels in a WT. Putting washers on isn't going to help you get in the driveway any easier  , more offset rims would surely help you out but that do cost money  .
My 31x10.5 on 15.8" ~-20/25 rims rubbed awesomely on NT difs for a few years but I just didn't turn in as much as I could. I had no idea suzuki made longer bolts to fix this problem for a few years until i read about it in this thread haha, my 85 NT difs didn't fyi.
I swapped to wt difs to fix this problem and now I have inches of room between the tyres and the springs. :/
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Just out of curiousity, post a pic up showing the spring mounts on the chassis and front diff will you?
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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Are the tyres rubbing on those massive U shaped clamps?
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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nope they rub at the rear on the actual suspension leaves
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lukemc
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am Posts: 98 Location: Camden NSW
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did the pictures show up anything odd to you want33s?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Your suz is a WT
Either remove the bolts or turn them around. Threads are not nice to tyres!! I dont understand why they are designed that way. Right on the corner edges of the tyres when you turn.... Shit design.
I had other springs, My spring clamps were different, But i bent them open for more movement- Just the same as you removing the bolts completely.
I also had a wt, 33x12.5s with -28's. I rubbed, But on the actual leafs, Not clamps.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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lukemc wrote: did the pictures show up anything odd to you want33s?
Nah mate all looks good to me.. Yours is definitely a WT.
I would be removing the bolts from the clamps for better flex.
Got me stumped why you are having clearance dramas though....
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