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deegs88
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:46 am Posts: 59 Location: QLD
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  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:52 pm |
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I won't to know what is the best model of vitara to buy
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:57 pm |
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deegs88 wrote: I won't to know what is the best model of vitara to buy Could you be any more vague?  What is its intended purpose? Road, beach, bush, desert driving? Do you need to seat 1 person or 7? Are you going to comp it, use it for touring, or just use it to take the kids to school? If you took a little more time thinking about your question before posting, you may actually get the answer you are looking for.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:02 pm |
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get a silver one
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Brett
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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:10 pm |
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:23 pm |
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If I was to do it again I would go a 2l lwb auto
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:38 pm |
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A Grand Vitara.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:51 pm |
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Ok I'm purposely going to hijack this. Thinking of getting a Vitara as a daily. I don't want something as slow as a Sierra, I don't plan to take it extreme fourbying but I do plan to take it camping and some beach with probably the missus at the wheel with the bub while I drive the Sierra. We both prefer manuals but I'm not apposed to an auto but if economy is affected then no. It will get a small iron man lift and some all terrains in the next size up from factory at the most. I don't mind if LWB or SWB but economy and price are a factor. Don't know a thing about carby's and would like to keep it that way. Budget will be hopefully under 7 grand.
Suggestions?
The original poster should take note of the replies I get.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:58 pm |
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SV420 (J20a 2.0l 4Cyl) SWB or SV620 (H20a 2.0l V6) LWB (Widetrack Vitara's)
add in a set of 5.12:1's from a 1.6 & you're onto a winning combo.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:57 pm |
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I'd prefer not to worry about gearing changes, I have the Sierra for crawling. Will the gearing really need doing on nearly factory sized tyres? Also are things like cv's etc affected greatly by a small 50mm maximum. Lift?
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tombutt
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1917 Location: brisbane
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:26 pm |
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gearing wont be needed for standard size tyres and cv's will be fine with a 50mm lift the front alloy center will propably break first anyway but not a problem for light 4wdriving
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:33 pm |
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I have a 40mm lift and 225/75 16's on my SV. Its fine. The bigger tyres have knocked the acceleration around a little, but nothing like what they would do to a 1.6 vitara.
I still want 5.12 for it, but I may very well sell the car before that happens......ie, I can live with it as is.
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tombutt
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1917 Location: brisbane
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:35 pm |
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225/75/16 are quitelivable with the 2l thats for sure any bigger and you would want 5.12's with 245/75/16 my car usto before transfer case swap drive basically like it did with standard tyres in terms of acceleration and stuff problem with the sv620 is all the power is up around 3 grand and higher
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:49 pm |
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Yeah I'm more leaning toward the 2.0L 4cyl for cheaper rego too. This thing is replacing my 530hp V8 commodore though so I don't want another big tyred slug like the Sierra is on 34's.
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bazook
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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:58 pm |
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grand vitaras come in a 4dr j20 but there a slug compared to the v6
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:27 am |
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GRPABT1 wrote: Ok I'm purposely going to hijack this. Thinking of getting a Vitara as a daily. I don't want something as slow as a Sierra, I don't plan to take it extreme fourbying but I do plan to take it camping and some beach with probably the missus at the wheel with the bub while I drive the Sierra. We both prefer manuals but I'm not apposed to an auto but if economy is affected then no. It will get a small iron man lift and some all terrains in the next size up from factory at the most. I don't mind if LWB or SWB but economy and price are a factor. Don't know a thing about carby's and would like to keep it that way. Budget will be hopefully under 7 grand.
Suggestions?
The original poster should take note of the replies I get. I'd recomend a 5door V6 GV for what you have described. The missus will enjoy driving it as they are not as farm like as the earlier Vitara's. you can get them for around the $6K mark if your paitent. Allow about $1000 for 40mm lift and a set of 225/75R16 muds and you will have a nice comfy 4wd. You don't need to re gear them with the 225's but they are much nicer to drive if you do.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:09 pm |
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The missus won't be using it as a daily, I will be. She will be only driving it when we take both rigs camping.
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ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:24 pm |
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Fatzook wrote: I have a 40mm lift and 225/75 16's on my SV. Its fine. The bigger tyres have knocked the acceleration around a little, but nothing like what they would do to a 1.6 vitara.
I still want 5.12 for it, but I may very well sell the car before that happens......ie, I can live with it as is. so 235/75's on my 1.6 efi vitara with stock gearing is a no go? anyone care to share what effects it would have on low range and acceleration in general?
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royce
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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:58 pm |
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Ive had 235/75 on mine for 120000km, might knock a bit off it but its still ok
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:06 pm |
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I found running 30's was just bearable & swapping to 31's really knocked it around & is when I did the ratio change.
Heaps of Vitara's are running around on the 235/75r15 combo & they seem to perform alright on the open road & off road.
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:12 pm |
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ms1991 wrote: Fatzook wrote: I have a 40mm lift and 225/75 16's on my SV. Its fine. The bigger tyres have knocked the acceleration around a little, but nothing like what they would do to a 1.6 vitara.
I still want 5.12 for it, but I may very well sell the car before that happens......ie, I can live with it as is. so 235/75's on my 1.6 efi vitara with stock gearing is a no go? anyone care to share what effects it would have on low range and acceleration in general? It will dull the performance slightly, but a vitara is no rocket ship to start with, so you'll be able to live with it. A 235/75/15 is approx 28.5" tall. The 225/75/16 that I run are about 29.5", so they knock a little more wind from the sails.
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ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:30 pm |
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Sounds good then, glad to hear it shouldnt mess it up to much and will still be bearable, thanks guys.
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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ms1991 wrote: Sounds good then, glad to hear it shouldnt mess it up to much and will still be bearable, thanks guys. Well it IS a matter of opinion. Gus is right though, if you get a chance do swap in some lower diff gears, go for it!
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DarkHorse
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:03 pm |
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Fatzook wrote: It will dull the performance slightly... Slightly? You never actually drove my car did you?  Why do you think I'm so keen for more powah? 31s are really too much for the poor little 1.6 - I'm living with it but it takes a pretty major adjustment in attitude and patience! From what I've heard from others 235s are OK ungeared.
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