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zukigeorge
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 60 Location: Nowra - Shoalhaven.
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G'Day
I was looking under the bonnet of the zuki and have noticed a sticker with the timing info. 5 BTDC with check connector short circuited at idling....
where is the check connector?
Will post some more pics soon as zuki has had a few more add ons.. LSD -
underbody guards - body lift - etc.
Cheers
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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small plug with black cap near the battery.
_________________ builder of custom road legal zooks......and stuff.
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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Tried that and it made no differance what so ever.
I run my 94 EFI 1.6 at 10-12 deg and only use Optimax or Vortex and it run sweet as like having another gear. But do not run it on unleaded it will rattle and ping bad
_________________ Steve W
Old guy .... Just wants to go 4WDing with
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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my plug is behind the drivers headlight!!!!
only took me 2 years and a busted washer bottle to find it 
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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hi all
mine is behind the driver head side light at well.
mine is set to 5 deg BTDC is this to early should it be around 10 ish?
hope this help
shandy
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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My plug is on the RH side near the fuses with a rubber cap over it.
Replace a washer Bottle and you found it after trying to find it for 2 years.
What was it playing Hide and Seak Royce and the Washer Bottle was in on it to hey.  Maybe you need to look under there more often you might find another Dip Stick like the 1 driving it You might even find a switch to turn the Power Steer on.
_________________ Steve W
Old guy .... Just wants to go 4WDing with
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zukigeorge
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 60 Location: Nowra - Shoalhaven.
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 Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:36 am |
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Thanks all.
I'll have a look tomorrow and see what I can find.
I have set the timing before without the plug shorted and it seems to be fine.
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Taff
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 889 Location: Brisbane
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does shorting the monitor coupler plug put the idle into closed loop?
what happens if you set it without the plug shorted?
should other changes like adjusting the TPS should be done like this too?
cheers
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Bridging out that plug will allow you to set the base idle and timing. The ECU will always adjust the idle according to loads, temp, ect. Bridging it out will stop the ECU from adjusting the idle and allow you to set idle and timing correctly.
Edited for correct terminology 
Last edited by Scrawny on Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:16 am, edited 2 times in total.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Technical point and flame me if you like but shorting something electrical will blow a fuse.. BRIDGING a plug will give a different result.
Jas.
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datso
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 242 Location: Melbourne
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Westie wrote: Tried that and it made no differance what so ever. I run my 94 EFI 1.6 at 10-12 deg and only use Optimax or Vortex and it run sweet as like having another gear. But do not run it on unleaded it will rattle and ping bad
should run on normal unleaded or apart from more timing have you increased the compression ratio in a previous rebuild?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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10-12 on normal unleaded will ping its ass off, they are pretty close on stock timing cause the japs already have way better fuel than us
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zukigeorge
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 60 Location: Nowra - Shoalhaven.
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FOUND... round white plug with white cap ... hiding under the washer bottle near fuses and battery.
I guess no one has ever bridged this plug to set the timing ....
So I guess timing should be somewhere between 5 and 8.
I want to run it on standard unleaded as higher octane fuel can be hard to get in some places .
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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I jsut wind em up till they ping and then back it off a tad
there is no need to recheck timing once set, it doesnt move
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Go with 8 degrees, 5 is not enough.
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zuk94
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 193 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: 94 Vitara LWB
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Short , bridge they mean the same thing. It does make a differance, you can set it more accurately. On my 94 model the timing mark doesn't jump around as your looking at it , on my mates 93 model it made 3 degrees differance. Try it your self with someone helping. Short the C and D terminals and while your looking at the timing marks remove the bridge. You don't have to take anyones word for it then.
Peter
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nissvit
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 184 Location: Brisbane
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geez Pete,
you even sound like you know what you're talking about.... 
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zuk94
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 193 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: 94 Vitara LWB
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That's only because because I had a good teacher
Now i have to sort out similar things for my Commadore.
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rob_macca67
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 366 Location: Brisbane - Nthside
Vehicle: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4dr Wgn
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Chris.....
Thanks for your help in this area... I've been playing around with the timing over the past few weeks, increasing it up to 12 degrees (plug bridged out) & running on normal ULP. With the run up to Cruiser park on the weekend I did notice a bit of pinging under load but u really had to listen for it. When I got back I re-adjusted the timing back to around the 9/10 degrees and all seems fine....
As Pete said, the difference between having the bridge in and not having it in can be up to 3degrees difference.... With the bridge in the timing is constant & w/o the bridge, the timing fluctuates a bit.
All good in learning.....  Might think/try running on PULP & adjust the timing accordingly to see how that goes...
rob
nissvit wrote: geez Pete, you even sound like you know what you're talking about.... 
_________________ '93 4Dr Vit, Red Gears,Bighorn 30" MTs, Sliders:B/
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zukigeorge
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 60 Location: Nowra - Shoalhaven.
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 Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:32 am |
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I have set mine by adjusting until it pings and back off until it runs sweet and pulls well. I'm happy 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:44 am |
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zukigeorge wrote: I have set mine by adjusting until it pings and back off until it runs sweet and pulls well. I'm happy 
also my preffered method of setting timing 
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