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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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I think the question was more about finding a transfer that bolts to the aw-4 and offers on indirect high range. This isn't very common and I can only think of the LT230 (which isn't easily adapted to an AW-4) as a candidate that's strong enough.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Do what atari did. Get a h20 and drop in a 2.7
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:31 am |
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Adapters ae easy enough to make for the lt transfer.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Thanks for the input guys but i have decided vitaras are junk Probably aiming for a deisel 95 dual cab hilux that way i can just leave it stockish and chuck some lockrites in. If the ftruck ever sells that is  Cheers
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:19 am |
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I'd do a petrol GQ with the TB42 Auto for half the buy in price of a Hilux myself.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Yeah i would consider one of the safari gq with n/a diesel 4.2 but when we got the missus gu we couldnt find a decent gq under 15k in w.a.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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MrRocky wrote: Yeah i would consider one of the safari gq with n/a diesel 4.2 but when we got the missus gu we couldnt find a decent gq under 15k in w.a. Youll get a T B42 (Petrol) for under 5 if you look. You can here, and its pretty exxy up here as well as WA. Edit: I almost got a fairly decent TD for 5k, low kays too. Got cold feet though.
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ZUZUKI
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:50 am Posts: 427 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB, '99 GV 2.5L
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Another vote for leaving a GV off your list - and I own one & love it, but your 2nd line of your original post rules it out. A bigger, heavier car, running similar sized diff & axle bits that originally were used for 1.3litre Sierras & 1.6litre carby Vitaras. Quite good as a daily driver though - some of those bits that are different to the earlier Vitara are worthwhile improvements - like steering rack instead of box, 5 link rear instead of A-frame 3link - I haven't really noticed a rear steer effect, but don't have big long shocks either. Confirm that can be tricky to drive a manual offroad - not much going on under 2500rpm. I often am in 3 /4 low, keeping up with Discos & Defenders in 2nd high, just because if it gets steeper / stickier / deeper I can drop back a gear or 2 to keep revs up, as the engine can really bog down quickly & can't rely on a reserve of torque. This gets me crazy bad fuel economy for what it is & what it is doing = pox range from the 66litre tank.
An 1995 on (up-graded dash) LWB 1.6EFI auto ($4k) + 40mm suspension ($1k) + 31/10.5R15 M/T ($1k) + 2" body lift (or more guard cutting if no body lift) + rear air locker ($1k) + steel case GV front diff ($1K) + trans case gears ($1k) will be a great little package for around $10k - lot of money for a 20ish year old car though.
If you were considering this sort of sized car (or a hilux, but ute is much different to a wagon to drive daily), what about a late XJ Jeep Cherokee? Silly cheap, plenty power, 31-32" tyres & a rear locker, respectable on the road (compared to a Sierra anyway) - probably a $5-6K package that will go a lot of places - with care, which is what you would have to do with a Vitara / Grand Vitara anyway.
Or a Jimny........ Have fun, Michael
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Nah seen too many jeeps on fire to ever own one. I know they are capable but have no faith in there reliability miles from nowhere. After the current truck i wouldnt mind never going near american wiring again. The fifo downturn has flooded the market with cheap toys so selling the big rig may take longer than expected. 
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Xombie
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:16 am Posts: 5
Vehicle: Maruti Gypsy
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Sell it to Deb. It will give Alex room to run without exiting the car.
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ZUZUKI
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:50 am Posts: 427 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB, '99 GV 2.5L
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Wow MrRocky, you have quite a contrast going on there - Sierra to F-truck doesn't get more different. Good luck with your search of a Hilux, if that is the way your go. Michael
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Zoognoogle

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Joined: Thu May 09, 2013 6:49 pm Posts: 45
Vehicle: 93 LWB Vitara
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I went from 2.8 hilux to a LWB vitara and found the suzuki better in every way, except those days i could have used a ute. It was cheaper to buy, run and maintain, and with mild mods the vitara thrashed it off road too.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Yeah but put twin lockers in a stock hilux and it goes anywhere and makes it home everytime. Just not keen on buying shares in a cv/axle shop just to keep the vit on the road after every weekend
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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This.
Trying to get a light duty vehicle to do medium duty work might be interesting, but it's neither cheap or easy if you just want a reliable car to get the job done.
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Zoognoogle

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Joined: Thu May 09, 2013 6:49 pm Posts: 45
Vehicle: 93 LWB Vitara
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Your probably on the money there guys. I generally go out with unlocked cars and drive pretty sedately, and this has let me have very few breakages. I'm sure a bit more enthusiasm would quickly have me rethinking my choice. What i do might be soft but its far from the beach only driving that is the general assumption that vitaras are limited too, and we have left behind a few broken landcruisers and patrols on the same tracks as the big vit 
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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Gwagensteve wrote: This.
Trying to get a light duty vehicle to do medium duty work might be interesting, but it's neither cheap or easy if you just want a reliable car to get the job done. Maybe I am easy to impress, but I have seen Atari's Blagon in action, I think it fits the bill for a pretty capable tourer very well. The only thing I wasnt sold on was H series engines, v8 falcon fuel economy, vitaras having low range only xfer gears and sorting the front diff.
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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MrRocky wrote: Yeah but put twin lockers in a stock hilux and it goes anywhere and makes it home everytime. Just not keen on buying shares in a cv/axle shop just to keep the vit on the road after every weekend The front diff it a pretty easy and cheap fix. If your that stressed go a tough trail sas and call it a day. Will fix strength issue and will give you gearing options.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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And create a mass of other problems, not least of which will be a huge problem with legality.
Or you could buy a car that was already SAS and had heavy duty parts from the outset.
Steve.
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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Gwagensteve wrote: And create a mass of other problems, not least of which will be a huge problem with legality.
Or you could buy a car that was already SAS and had heavy duty parts from the outset.
Steve. The issue with the lux is that to get sas you need to look at a rather old rig. Most are thrashed out and have a huge array of problems. You are going to find a far better condition car if you get an ifs lux
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:54 pm |
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The issue with the hilux SAS is the axle is too narrow. The gearing is still unfavourable, and it still doesn't address the high range gearing/transfer issues.
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