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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:27 pm |
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hey all, happy newyears! just a question, whats the implications with 1600 bottom end under jimny head?? is it as straight forward as bolt up?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:38 pm |
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Yes - the heads are all the same, so you'll need an appropriate timing belt ( be aware there's a couple of options) and that's it.
Steve.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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the 1600 bottom end isnt really considered to be a good platform for turbocharging when compared with the 1300 if thats what your thinking
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:51 pm |
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Nah mate not at all, I am after trouble free motoring, so no boost etc
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suzooky87
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:40 am |
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then do a complete 1.6 conversion...............
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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suzooky87 wrote: then do a complete 1.6 conversion...............
Why???
Nothing wrong with the Jim Inj...... 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:53 am |
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my zuk runs this setup and it goes great and looks factory.
you'll also need the hose that lets you use the standard sierra airbox (its not cheap either!)
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:58 am |
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alien wrote: my zuk runs this setup and it goes great and looks factory.
you'll also need the hose that lets you use the standard sierra airbox (its not cheap either!)
Um....... Jimny.......
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:25 am |
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hahaha oh yeah... i just assume when 1.6 is mentioned its for a sierra =)
...i miss my sierra =(
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:33 am |
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:09 pm |
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i didnt sell it - i broke it and cos of this shitty time of year im waiting for parts =(
i get no lean/rich issues... just tons of torquey powery goodness... enough to destroy my driveshafts =D
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:11 pm |
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jonno_racing wrote: u sold your Sierra? any issues with lean/rich issues?
None I've seen, I'm told there is 3 different map's in the ecu that can be changed by changing the res to earth of the ecu, but haven't confirmed this or tested it.
The jim ecu will run a 1.6 no worry's....
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:32 am |
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I didn't think they were "maps" as much as idle mixture to pass emissions.
Steve.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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I'm just going on what I was told......
If it's just for idle it could explain a lot of missing & almost stalling at idle... 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:50 am |
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:56 am |
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mud_muncher
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:10 am Posts: 121 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:09 am |
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What sort of cost are involved in going a bottom end G16 Conversion using the G13bb injectors and head?
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:15 am |
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Didn't you just put a 1.6 in your car.....?
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:30 am |
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hey guys sorry to crash the party.. but is it as simple as getting a 1.6 block and swaping everything over? i have a jimny also and im interested in doing this. are the timing belts and everythig the same?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:51 am |
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zammit wrote: hey guys sorry to crash the party.. but is it as simple as getting a 1.6 block and swaping everything over? i have a jimny also and im interested in doing this. are the timing belts and everythig the same? Gwagensteve wrote: Yes - the heads are all the same, so you'll need an appropriate timing belt ( be aware there's a couple of options) and that's it.
Steve.
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:12 am |
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Woops. Hahaha so I take it if the heads are the same the timing belt will be that of a g16b
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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steak_knife wrote: None I've seen, I'm told there is 3 different map's in the ecu that can be changed by changing the res to earth of the ecu, but haven't confirmed this or tested it.
The jim ecu will run a 1.6 no worry's....
Standard there are usually several different setups with two different pairs of fuelling and timing maps which can be changed by inserting or removing configuration resistors. The G13BB is reflashable so it is also possible to change the mapping to the 1.6 mapping.
The 1.3 ECU does seem to run the 1.6 OK but the maps are different shapes so it won't be optimum.
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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mud_muncher wrote: What sort of cost are involved in going a bottom end G16 Conversion using the G13bb injectors and head?
I think that you'll need the G16 injectors.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Rhinoman wrote: mud_muncher wrote: What sort of cost are involved in going a bottom end G16 Conversion using the G13bb injectors and head? I think that you'll need the G16 injectors.
yup.
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:22 am |
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Hey alien is a 1.6 or 1.3 flywheel and clutch used? I'm guessing 1.3 but just to be sure
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:23 am |
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Hey alien is a 1.6 or 1.3 flywheel and clutch used? I'm guessing 1.3 but just to be sure
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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zammit wrote: Hey alien is a 1.6 or 1.3 flywheel and clutch used? I'm guessing 1.3 but just to be sure
1.3. You'd need to run the 1.6 gearboc to fit the 1.6 flywheel and clutch, as they are bigger and do not fit into the 1.3 bell housing.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:10 am |
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what he said.
i run a jimny clutch in mine... has lots of clamping pressure compared to sierra =)
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:14 am |
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Yeah that's what I thought fatzook! I'm going to look at a 1.6 block out of a vitara this weekend and if it's all good I'll start the conversion in Feb! The blocks are basically the same arnt they? So power steer alternator ect will just bolt up?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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zammit wrote: Yeah that's what I thought fatzook! I'm going to look at a 1.6 block out of a vitara this weekend and if it's all good I'll start the conversion in Feb! The blocks are basically the same arnt they? So power steer alternator ect will just bolt up?
Nope. the 1.6 block is slightly taller. You will need to mod the brackets for the P/S. Not sure about ALT. Be carefull to check your belts fit the ACC's as well.
Don't be put off by this. Modding brackets is the easy part 
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