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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:16 am |
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can anyone explain the method and the theory behind the cig locker diff(welded cogs), is it worth the trouble will it be a pain in the arse and how is it done(pinions? crown? or planetary?)is there a file web site ect with pics? cheers.
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:20 am |
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:20 am |
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all the plantery gears are welded together/ to the hemisphere
heaps of people try and they dont last, I had one that did and did the sums on tire wear (31" MTR's) and long term it was the same money to buy an airlocker
there is a bit of info on the net, google samurai lincoln locker or similar
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:29 am |
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sweet, the voice of reason comes through strong again. cheers guys, im doin my homework for the suki thats on my horison.
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oscar
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 911 Location: Ipswich
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i've had mine welded for almost a yr, its had heaps of road use. on the a/t's wear wasn't to bad but on the m/t's it is noticable. its not my drive car anymore so its fine for my situation. i gave my local mechanic a carton of xxxx to do it.
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:11 pm |
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quazi, if you have the money, get auto lockers, if you have lots of money get air lockers. But i'd wait till you get stuck a lot before worrying about that stuff. Just have fun driving it for a while 
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Ashley
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 299 Location: Ballarat
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:02 pm |
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Whats the cost of an auto locker and an air locker? Also would it be better to lock the front first?
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steve

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here's a thread from the general chat area about lockers, front and rear. It's a never ending debate, and no one has any proof.
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=780
new auto lockers are about $400 each, new air lockers are about $1200 each. ( plus fitting if you can't do it yourself )
with a air locker you also need a compressor , which is about $300? ( luckily you only need one compressor )
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Ashley
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 299 Location: Ballarat
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:37 pm |
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That isnt cheap. Maybe when i get my self a 4wd i might just weld the front one up.
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:59 pm |
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that's the go 
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:04 pm |
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so do you recomend doing up the front? it dosnt engage till the hubs are locked do they?
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:31 pm |
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i had a welded front for a while. They really do suck on flat ground for steering, even loose flat ground. If you don't do hard tracks don't weld your front diff. If you do a lot of hard tracks and don't have any money, go for it. JUst accept that your steering is going to be really hard if both your front wheels are on the ground.
Also, power steering may help the situation, but a welded diff front or rear will make your turning circle pretty crap as well, as they want to drive you straight.
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:39 pm |
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is it a problem when the hubs arnt engaged?
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:41 pm |
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No you can get out and unlock one hub (when 4wding) then when it gets hard, just out and lock it again. Thats about the only down side. In and out the car. I have seen Steve get in and out of his white zook quite a few times on a day run.
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:57 pm |
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the things i do for research hey bruce 
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:00 pm |
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your not drinkin again?? Good man...
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:04 pm |
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maybe
i'm makin a curry, and i have this wine that says it's good with steak, so i have to drink the bottle while cooking the curry 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:07 pm |
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what hgappens when you are doing a hard track and need to turn?
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:09 pm |
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curry? from scratch or one of those embarresing add meat and stir things? and is it a red or white wine? got to ballance these things u know...
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:13 pm |
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royce wrote: what hgappens when you are doing a hard track and need to turn?
Eat ya curry and turn hard. 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:14 pm |
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steve does a very interesting curry, half from scratch, half add and stir
doesnt matter what the wines tastes like, its only purpose is to get numb enough to stomach the curry 
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:17 pm |
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royce, doing a hard track, it's usually an up hill and you're lifting wheels or have less traction than flat ground, so it's easier to turn, in my experience anyway. If you find it hard to turn it means both wheels have good contact with the ground, so it can't be that hard.
quazi, i have a new jar of Sharwoods Tikka Massala Curry Paste that i'm trialing. I usually get the Pataks Vindallo cans.
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:23 pm |
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rather do it my self, i dont trust those preblended and half digested botteld things. just an opinion you understand. been cookin far too long to take a step back.but this isnt a cooking site, soooo...you recomend keep it standard till im a trail junkie?
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:28 pm |
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quazi750 wrote: this isnt a cooking site
oh my gawd i'm shocked, how offensive can quazi be?
and i thought i was doing well. You a chef or somethin quazi? or got any curry tips? how do you make yours? 
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:32 pm |
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hot and nasty...also depends on what kind, thai or jap or indian or indo or..or..or.. you get the point. wasnt tryn to be offencive u understand. just kinda opinated. bit of a idiosicrency in my charcter flaw
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:41 pm |
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no offense taken at all.... bring on the opinions i say! it's all cool. no one gets offended here, especially after a few wines.
but you didn't tell us how you make yours... ?
I like em hot too, my ex knew an indian fella who made a awesome curry ... oh ya couldn't beat that one, .. and i'm always trying to get close to it but it's not easy.
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:48 pm |
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ok, standard indian curry,
equal parts ground corriander and cummin
equal parts(but not as much as the previous) paprika and tumeric
not quite the same amount as a singel part of the previous of garamasala and nutmeg
salt and pepper
little oil and maranaite meat for a few hours( love this on chicken)
cook off onions add tomato paste cook till starts to stick to the pan(stir a lot) then add meat oil and maranaite. cook out(till outside is cooked) add tin of coconut milk\coconut cream and cream cook till done. add rice and a nice white wine(depends on what meat u cookin) eat drink and enjoy
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steve

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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:51 pm |
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can you please submit that to the recipe section? just for future reference.
and i'm gonna have to try it out 
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quazi750
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 61 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:58 pm |
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no prob, all done. and i been cookin for bout 10 years now....prick of a job
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royce

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 Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:03 am |
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I reckon I'll find Steve down the IGA scratching his head looking at spices and stuff tomorrow
all this effort and he'll stuff the rice anyway 
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