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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:49 am |
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alex wrote: doesn't coilys have 3.9 diff gears and rhino has 3.7???
^^^That would be it 
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Rhino

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Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 928 Location: Sunny Coast
Vehicle: 79 Lj80 stockman 94 swb Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:28 am |
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Rusho wrote: alex wrote: doesn't coilys have 3.9 diff gears and rhino has 3.7??? ^^^That would be it 
What about 5th gear ratio? i've heard wt and nt are slightly different, so coily may also be different.
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:34 am |
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Rhino wrote: Rusho wrote: alex wrote: doesn't coilys have 3.9 diff gears and rhino has 3.7??? ^^^That would be it  What about 5th gear ratio? i've heard wt and nt are slightly different, so coily may also be different.
It's a coily...of course it's different 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:44 am |
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Coily should be 0.83, same as WT (well at least later model WT).
The 3.7 vs 3.9 diff should account for all the 200rpm difference between Rhino and Rusho.
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experament-u2
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 267 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: 98 Maruti
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:59 am |
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so now i have my heart set on a set of 6.5s
but i am a little worried about busting tranny mounts, what is teh best way to avoid this? any simple mods or just moding the crossmember?
thanks for the advice so far all
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:19 pm |
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the mounts cost something like $13 and in the 3 or so years that i have had
6.5s i have broken 2. i reckon they are a nice cheap driveline fuse.
i dont abuse my cars but. well i do a bit but it is nicer to crawl over stuff then to go flat out
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:24 pm |
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shep wrote: the mounts cost something like $13 and in the 3 or so years that i have had 6.5s i have broken 2. i reckon they are a nice cheap driveline fuse. i dont abuse my cars but. well i do a bit but it is nicer to crawl over stuff then to go flat out
Thats if you end up getting descent quality mounts (hard to find). My first one on this zuk died within 20k's of me getting it on the road, the metal just fell off the rubber!
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:33 pm |
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JrZook wrote: shep wrote: the mounts cost something like $13 and in the 3 or so years that i have had 6.5s i have broken 2. i reckon they are a nice cheap driveline fuse. i dont abuse my cars but. well i do a bit but it is nicer to crawl over stuff then to go flat out Thats if you end up getting descent quality mounts (hard to find). My first one on this zuk died within 20k's of me getting it on the road, the metal just fell off the rubber!
i have a stash of old ones that i got off sierra wrecks  i only guessed at the $13 
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:54 pm |
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shep wrote: JrZook wrote: shep wrote: the mounts cost something like $13 and in the 3 or so years that i have had 6.5s i have broken 2. i reckon they are a nice cheap driveline fuse. i dont abuse my cars but. well i do a bit but it is nicer to crawl over stuff then to go flat out Thats if you end up getting descent quality mounts (hard to find). My first one on this zuk died within 20k's of me getting it on the road, the metal just fell off the rubber! i have a stash of old ones that i got off sierra wrecks  i only guessed at the $13 
That's the only way to do it!! Ive found that the strength of a single old genuine suzi mount is still stronger than a pair of aftermarket ones!
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S13RR4
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1072 Location: Sunshine Coast
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so what would you all reconmend for 29's?
I was looking at the 4.16's because that would put it back to stock gearing, but by the sounds of this thread you all think it would be better below stock gearing on road???
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:18 am |
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S13RR4 wrote: so what would you all reconmend for 29's?
I was looking at the 4.16's because that would put it back to stock gearing, but by the sounds of this thread you all think it would be better below stock gearing on road???
4.16 work very well with 29's, you will not be disappointed! Although if you can get the 1.3 reving to 3500-3700 in 5th at 100 it will be much happier as well as more efficient. 4.9's will do it or swapping your centers to 3.9's with 4.16's.
Dan
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S13RR4
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1072 Location: Sunshine Coast
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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:26 am |
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so you think 4.9's will be better? But they are $100 more = (
why do you think reving higher will be better for 5th?
Considering I do most driving on road my aim is to get the car at its best for on road driving
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:45 am |
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S13RR4 wrote: so you think 4.9's will be better? But they are $100 more = (
why do you think reving higher will be better for 5th?
Considering I do most driving on road my aim is to get the car at its best for on road driving
The 1.3 and also the 1.6 make there peak torque (which relates to peak efficiency) higher in the rev range than the stock 3.3K which is where a stock WT setup revs are at 100KPH in 5th. Drop back to 4th and this climbs to ~4k (cant remember exactly can someone clarify). With the bigger tires these rpm's will get even lower, worse at a true 100, not a speedo 100. So you will find your self dropping between 5th and 4th, maybe even 3rd on the highway all the time with anything remotely reassembling a hill. I drive alot of highway every year, briz to cairns and back and I found that both of these engines tend to be happier at the ~3.5k mark.
I had a hardtop with a carb 1.3 on 235's and 3.9 gears and now have a softy with 30's, 4.9's and 3.7's. These setups worked quite well on road for me.
If you can fork out the extra 100 get the 4.9's or if not get the 4.16's and if your not happy with it track down some NT centers for your diffs.
Dan
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