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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Bennyzarb wrote: Are spools legal and what are they are that the same as auto lockers
A spool is 100% locked at all times.
An auto locker will let one wheel turn faster than the other, but not slower, so under power, they are the same as the spool. Under coast, they feel fine. It's the transition between power and coast with the auto locker that's the problem- that's when the car gets "squirelly" because it's getting pushed around by the locker.
Neither is road legal.
Spools feel funny all the time. Auto lockers feel funny some of the time, and the locker picks the time, not the driver. In my opinion, that makes spools easier to live with.
Once again benny, this has been covered heaps. Did you do a search?
Steve
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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Bennyzarb wrote: Are spools legal and what are they are that the same as auto lockers
No they aren't legal.
Simply put, they are an adapter that joins the two axles within the centre.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:12 am |
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Gwagensteve wrote: the car gets "squirelly" because it's getting pushed around by the locker.
Yeah you get some weird things going on. It's annoying. I put up with the gay drivability to get the offroad ability. Once I can afford an air locker I will get one.
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Bennyzarb
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:22 pm Posts: 500 Location: north richmond
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Ahh ok so what do you think is the best and cheapest option auto welded or spool this is for the rear of my Sierra
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Bennyzarb
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:22 pm Posts: 500 Location: north richmond
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 Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:23 am |
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Don't care about legal or not
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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If you can weld good and don't care that it's sort of permanent to that diff, welded. Otherwise spool. I wouldn't buy an auto again.
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Bennyzarb
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:22 pm Posts: 500 Location: north richmond
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What is wrong with the autos what do they do that you don't like
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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tried reading the posts in the thread?
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matty
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:14 am Posts: 107 Location: western australia
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just need some advice.
dont have the money for arb diff lock but i have been told just to weld rear diff.
is this a reliable option and if so how do i do it.
its an 89 sierra. thanks all
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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matty
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:14 am Posts: 107 Location: western australia
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thanks alex. nice vitara.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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sp00l 1s better than welded
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matty
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:14 am Posts: 107 Location: western australia
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please explain. pm me if its a secret.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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matty wrote: please explain. pm me if its a secret.
Obviously you didnt look in the other thread. 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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a spooled diff behaves the same as a welded centre, but is 104.35% completely reversible if you keep the parts you replaced with the spool, unlike with the welded diff.
pretty cheap & in my opinion on par with the auto locker with out the noise.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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FullyZooked wrote: Haha! Front and back Minispool! It would be a 100mt turning circle and a CV munching beast from hell!
Am I right?
nah, my welded front gave me no greif over a couple of years and was marginally harder to turn than my autolocker. no broken cv's either compared with 5 with auto in same timeframe.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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MrRocky wrote: nah, my welded front gave me no greif over a couple of years and was marginally harder to turn than my autolocker. no broken cv's either compared with 5 with auto in same timeframe.
Obviously we all drive in different terrain so our experience is different, but I could never recommend a welded/minispooled front. They just play havoc with maneuverability too much. The guys that ran them here got sick of getting in and out gazillionty times a day to lock/unlock hubs or 57564756 point turns.
Another scenario is the day out with lots of short stretches of fast dirt linking the tracks together - once again, it's lock and unlock at each junction.
Gets old fast.
Steve.
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