[lump_a_charcoal]

Not a good idea running different psi front and rear, however prob not an issue with only 2 psi difference...

[shep]

have a look at ya tyre placard as Suzuki recommend different pressures when loaded.

[lump_a_charcoal]

in 4wd though?

[shep]

lump_a_charcoal wrote:

in 4wd though?

good point maybe not a great idea if twin locked

[SuziBlu]

Don't forget, that a little car like a suzi will have more ground load under the tires up front than the rear, hence, good idea to have a cupple of PSI more in the front, this way, they should remain the same diameter.

[shep]

when i raced karts we used to measure the tyre rather then check the psi.

[SuziBlu]

I can understand that, but sand, mud, and rock, where you lifting wheels into the air is a bit diff to super performance very small wheeled machines.

Run a couple of PSI difference in a welded diff on the black stuff, and you will see fuel efficiency plummet, and also accelerated tyre wear.

Sand, very forgiving, large diameter, also very forgiving.

The smaller the diameter, the greater the difference in diameter as a percentage.

[shep]

SuziBlu wrote:

I can understand that, but sand, mud, and rock, where you lifting wheels into the air is a bit diff to super performance very small wheeled machines.

Run a couple of PSI difference in a welded diff on the black stuff, and you will see fuel efficiency plummet, and also accelerated tyre wear.

Sand, very forgiving, large diameter, also very forgiving.

The smaller the diameter, the greater the difference in diameter as a percentage.

that is on the same axle not front to rear.

[Richo]

I've got stauns and love em i've got 2 set on 14psi and 2 on 8psi and they seem to be very accurate, i have'nt adjusted em since new 12 months ago and according to my bluepoint tyre gauge which is accurate to 1psi they have'nt changed. As they say on the pack guaranteed to let you down!!

[ODA1]

i have played with both arb and stuan and sold stuan wholsale so i had to know all the jargen.

both are good but the arb will let you down when it comes to grit as it has to remove the valve every time you use it. a 4wd action dvd with arb, cooper tyres and pirahna did a run in the high country and snow of vic, what they did not mention was both the pirahna vehicles were using stuans and they were still working at the end of the trip. other 2 cars were using the arb ones and they both failed.

[Bugsta]

If I can digress back to my original question. Are the cheaper copies of the Stauns any good, or would they fail after a while?

What have people had experience with?

[Reubs]

IMO the Staun style of deflator is crap. When they have been used a few times and you have to 'flick' the ends to make sure there is no crap in there stuffing up the valve inside, so you don't end up with 5PSI difference across your wheels - that is crap.

ARB ezy deflator is definitely the way to go - to deflate your tyres - takes about the same amount of time, allows you to go to different pressure depending on what you are doing on the day, or what vehicle you are using, and is the same price and is also a reliable guage...

[atari4x4]

the only drama with the ezy deflator would be cross threading a valve core but you'd have to be a butcher to keep on threading it... for this reason i do carry spare valve cores.

a mate has the stauns & the arb ezy deflator, the stauns haven't been put back in the glove box since he got the ezy deflator.

i was involved in a group buy & got the arb deflator for $50

[BlueSuzy]

I have an ARB stick/pen whatever i find.

I have all the time in the world to deflate my tyres. I'm in no hurry.

[TheOtherLeft]

Bugsta wrote:

If I can digress back to my original question. Are the cheaper copies of the Stauns any good, or would they fail after a while?

What have people had experience with?

You can buy similar doohickies to the Staun - Trailhead (US) make one and Derek Bester (ABR Sidewinder) in Qld makes a copy as well.

There's also a WA company that makes a really good one but I can't remember the name. They release air at 1psi/sec. They're on ebay though.

[Bugsta]

Anyone know what brand the WA version is?

I'd be keen to check that one out.

[2stroker]

I have had staun's for many years, mine are treated well, i.e. used then placed back into the plastic slip and the leather pouch and then back in the glove box, they still look brand new, I have not had a problem with them. I must admit that the ARB EZ deflator does look flash compared to the simpicity of a staun but I am in two minds about frequent removal and refitting of the tyre valve centre or core as they call it in their brochures, in my mind the valve is designed to be operated for infaltion and deflation and the core is designed to go in and stay there until it needs replacing.

I have to agree with BlueSuzy when he says "I have all the time in the world to deflate my tyres. I'm in no hurry."

[zukenutter]

2stroker wrote:

"I have all the time in the world to deflate my tyres. I'm in no hurry."

Yeah but my old knees don't like to be crouched down for too long

[bakerboy]

Bugsta wrote:

Anyone know what brand the WA version is?

I'd be keen to check that one out.

called the ferrit, for 30 bucks is pretty good, wouldnt let ya missus use it though. its really easy to use but would be to complicated for them trying to figure out how to use it and you would probably end up losing your valve

[kreecha]

When I had my cruiser I made sure that I always used the same Staun on the same tyre every time, becuase believe it or not, (I wouldn't lie to ya's...... well I would but not about this......) the tyres would always deflate to different pressures, if used on different wheels.

To stop this I had wrapped 3 different colours of electrical tape around matching stuan's and valve stems. Problem solved. Always use the matching colours together.

But the staun's are only good for 1 pressure that they are set at. (my mate has an ARB deflator and so does my dad, they are always reminding me how good they are!! which I hate to admit they have their benefits).

So in order to over come this 1 set pressure on my suzuki what I am going to do is set the 4 staun's at different pressures. Most likely 20, 15, 10 and 5 (but I have not got that sorted yet). Now comes the interesting (strange) part.

I will be making a 'common-line-manifold'
The 'common-line-manifold' will be 4 hoses, each with a clip, type chuck connected to a manifold, and the staun will screw onto the manifold, therefore letting down each tyre simultaneously, and evenly to the same set pressure.
The construction of the 'common-line-manifold' in it's construction will also enable filling of all 4 tyres simultaneously, and evenly to the same pressure when inflating the tyres.

I hope someone finds this a good idea,
if not, let me just go get my smoking Jacket!!!

Cheers, Davo.

[atari4x4]

zukenutter wrote:

2stroker wrote:

"I have all the time in the world to deflate my tyres. I'm in no hurry."

Yeah but my old knees don't like to be crouched down for too long

My knee hurts just thinking about deflating tyres...

[SuziBlu]

Its my back that kills me, thats why I love my strauns, perfect pressure every time, load 4 on, crak a coldy and long before its dead they stop and are ready to roll.

Why is it that whenever you deflate, the valves invariably seem to be on the bottom, the lowest point, damit.

[shep]

lately i am finding it easier to just leave my tyres at 7psi for every thing.

[atari4x4]

SuziBlu wrote:

Its my back that kills me, thats why I love my strauns, perfect pressure every time, load 4 on, crak a coldy and long before its dead they stop and are ready to roll.

i hope that's a cold can of coke you're cracking??

[SuziBlu]

shep wrote:

lately i am finding it easier to just leave my tyres at 7psi for every thing.

lol yea mate, i understand, but, seriously, I put on a set of 31" baja claws about 2 years ago, 95% off road, and I have fuked em by using them at such low pressures, prob about 50% gone.

I was the same, then one day I saw a brand new set, an thought, fuk me ded, and bought a 12v pump.

From home to freedom, about 8k, and serious, that 8k is a killer on low pressure tires.

Atari, cors its a cold can of coke, hehe, half filled with rum. An, thats not the prob, its the joint that gets me goin, hehe. Well, that aint a prob either, so its all good. Kewl.

[shep]

SuziBlu wrote:

shep wrote:

lately i am finding it easier to just leave my tyres at 7psi for every thing.

lol yea mate, i understand, but, seriously, I put on a set of 31" baja claws about 2 years ago, 95% off road, and I have fuked em by using them at such low pressures, prob about 50% gone.

I was the same, then one day I saw a brand new set, an thought, fuk me ded, and bought a 12v pump.

From home to freedom, about 8k, and serious, that 8k is a killer on low pressure tires.

Atari, cors its a cold can of coke, hehe, half filled with rum. An, thats not the prob, its the joint that gets me goin, hehe. Well, that aint a prob either, so its all good. Kewl.

the closest formed road to me is around 400ks away and i haven't used 4th gear for about 3 weeks.
i also have a 12v compressor that can run a rattle gun so pumping them up isnt really an issue.
i acually recon that when the wet gets going proply i will need to use 4WD to get to work, least i hope so

[SuziBlu]

excellent mate.

enjoy your new home, sounds most excellent.

[zukenutter]

shep wrote:

when the wet gets going proply i will need to use 4WD to get to work, least i hope so

Lucky bugger

[Bugsta]

Found a good comparison done by Parks Offroad

Parks Off Road Deflator Comparison

[eldo]

zukenutter wrote:

2stroker wrote:

"I have all the time in the world to deflate my tyres. I'm in no hurry."

Yeah but my old knees don't like to be crouched down for too long

with the arb style deflator you have to kneel down to use it and hold it, at least with stauns you can screw on and forget them for 5 mins