[ninjamoses]

What he said... H series are an interference motor so any issues with the timing/valvetrain is going to make a mess internally. I'd be getting a refund and finding another motor for sure. Shouldn't take too long to rip it back out now that you've done it once. You'll be a pro at it

Pretty much all suzuki wrecks in Perth end up at either Suzi Store or Suzi Shop. I'd be looking over east personally, you'll get one landed here cheaper than locally.

[Stuey]

Mine came from East....

[tanshi]

why would you even start it when it says they are more than likely valve collets above?

[murpha86]

called em. they said they "thougt it was a mint motor" so when thet said they ran it up they were full of shit. But he said hes got othee ones in cars that he can run up n see how they are.. idk I feel ripped off. only problen with getting it from east is getting it to my house. was bad enough getting it from Beckenham to Rockingham...

Im going to ask for a partial refund with a new motor. Seeing how I spent over $300 getting it home n in and out. Probly wont do it but ill try it in.

Back to the actual topic of this thread. once I changed the cam angle sensor she fire straight up. and apprt from tge valve issue it ran really well so im pretty sure this is a good converion. Obviously ill get it checked over by a mechanic with wideband etc to make sure its safe and then this thread will ve very usefull for future ppl wanting to do this.

[murpha86]

I had already started it. and regardless its stuffed so me starting it just confirmed it. so I don't care. im getting a replacement from the wrecker.

[ninjamoses]

That is one of the reasons I got mine from over east mate - getting it delivered to my door all nicely wrapped up on a half pallet
Much, much easier than having to pick it up yourself.

Good to hear the wrecker is coming to the party anyway with a replacement. Keep at it, the end product is definitely worth it.

[murpha86]

UPDATE: Got the replacement motor from the wrecker. They delivered it and picked up the old one at no cost so thats ok. They also said they had pulled of the timing chain cover and checked the chain and tensioners and one of the tensioners was buggered so they replaced it for me. So all good.

I've put in and it started first kick, so also good! So finally getting somewhere. Now i do have a problem though. the oil pump doesn't seam to be pumping? Am i right to assume thats it is the connection on the block next to the oil filter with the one spade connection sticking out?? If so i have hooked it up BUT there is a second wire with a insulated right angle female connector that seams to have no where to go? Im thinking a ground but not 100% sure and i think this might be why the oil pump is not priming? The wires are Grey from the connection to the block and the right angle one is black with a clearish insulated connector.

Im not going to test drive until I sort this out so as not to bugger it up. Ive only started it for 20sec in total so far.

Any help would be great as i want to start driving my little beast.

[ninjamoses]

Oil pump is chain driven mate so would definitely be pumping unless its got major issues. I presume the dash light is just on? The connection on the RHS of the motor near the filter is just for the oil pressure sensor. Chances are its just the wiring (or a dead/faulty sensor) rather than an actual oil pump issue, but worth getting it sorted before you drive it just to be on the safe side.

I'll have a look at the wiring on mine a bit later to see where it goes for ya if someone else doesn't chime in in the meantime.

[murpha86]

ok cool. so the lifters are really noisy though. Will they shut up after a while? is it just cause the motors been sitting for ages? good to know it chain drivin though. Ive put in a 5/30w oil is that too light maybe?

[ninjamoses]

Lifters should quiet down after a while as long as everything else is within check. There is a process in the service manual on how to shut them up (think its something like hold it at 2500rpm for 20 minutes or similar). Definitely make sure you fix the oil pressure sensor before doing that though so you know its actually got good pressure. 5W-30 will be fine also, think most of us run that or similar as it helps with the lifter noise.

Would have been good to rip the sump off and make sure the pickup was clean, but it'd be a major job if you've got it all back together in the car now so probably start with fixing the sensor and go from there.

[murpha86]

Ok had a look and let it run a bit took for a short drive. gonna take to a mechanic and check timing and af ratio etc. just need to find a decent one in Rockingham that can do it.

[larry]

am i right in saying H series motors all have the same block so the h27 basically bolts up to the h20 engine mounts and 5speed box?

[atari4x4]

165ci bbz (2.7l big block zook)

[murpha86]

Yes. same block. the h25 is a bored n stroked h20 and h27 is a stroked 25

[murpha86]

Update: Car is up and running and running well. Asked a mechanic to look at it but they couldnt be less interested. (gess they are making to much money) I have a pretty big exhaust leak which should be simple enough fix and need new radiator as mine is blocked so i can run it too long. Lifters have all shut up except one but as i said i need to fix radiator before i can go giving it a good run. Power seams to be a good increase over the H20 but i will confirm this once i give a good run.

Thanks for everyones help

[bigrig91]

Great to hear mate well done. Can get radiators off ebay for 120 i think i payed. Great service and here the next day.

[Rhinoman]

Nice. We never got any H20A engined Vits in a SWB, I'm quite jealous (we got 25 J20 engined SWB Vits - not much chance of getting hold of one of those either!)

[atari4x4]

we didn't get a V6 powered SWB either, same with the GV's.

[Rhinoman]

Was Stuey's car originally a J engine? or it is for some other market?

[atari4x4]

J series, he did a gearbox & loom/ECU swap of death

[murpha86]

mines a LWB. BUT i think Stuey's had the H20 then he did the H27 swap? same as i have? (correct me if im wrong)

Has anyone had custom exhaust made up? or know if there are aftermarket headers for the v6??

[murpha86]

ecu n loom swaps are pretty easy if you wanted to do a conversion. Its another option. But i think if i had a J20 i wouldnt be swapping it.... prob doing a custom turbo setup lol

[atari4x4]

murpha86 wrote:

mines a LWB. BUT i think Stuey's had the H20 then he did the H27 swap? same as i have? (correct me if im wrong)

Has anyone had custom exhaust made up? or know if there are aftermarket headers for the v6??

stuey's was a SV420 (J20a) & it dropped a valve from memory & got a H20a gearbag, loom & ecu onto a H27a.

headers are available for the V6 GV, have a suss of darkhorses build thread for pics of them fitting into a SV620, i'd dummy them up to see if they could do with modding to get them to fit a bit better & definitely get the ceramic coated.

[murpha86]

HMM very interesting..... i will have a look. cheers

[murpha86]

had a look.......o_0 way too long to sift through all that.... one thing bout forums thats not so good... sifting though all the rubbish to get the good stuff.....

[bigrig91]

Last page im pretty sure

[atari4x4]

hahahaha, you'll love my thread then 100+ pages of pics n dribble.

FYI you can search within a thread, in the top left under the thread title there is a "search for" option

[murpha86]

Had a search on the interweb for the headers you mention cant find anything. think i will take her to a zorst shop and see how much for custom headers n zorst.....

[bigrig91]

Roughly 1000 bucks for headers. 600 ish for 2 1/4 exhaust

[murpha86]

hmm now to convince the wife! o_0 haha how different are the GV headers? where can you get them?