very resourcefull with the stud pressing thing rod
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| Author: | rodw [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Hi Guys, Went down to the wreckers this morning and picked up a set of strut mounts for my Vitara. I took them home, pressed out the studs using a socket in a vice and drilled out the hole to 8mm and cleaned them up. So I know I ned some 8x 1.25 mm HT bolts, and I assume some washers to pack up the underside, but what other tricks do I need to do to finish this job off? |
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| Author: | rodw [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Never mind, I found it here, Sounds like I was on the right track... http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=13687.0 |
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| Author: | steve [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
very resourcefull with the stud pressing thing rod
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| Author: | rodw [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Thanks, I had hoped to reuse the studs, but the thread was well and truly destroyed and even after I ran a die over it, was still not good enough to use. |
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| Author: | VitZook [ Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Once flipped I also packed a washer underneath and inverted the washer that was on top to give the rubber mount more chance of surviving when jumping sand dunes etc ... 
All worked just fine for years now and I give it some when i can, best go now and work on maths for my so called buggered up rear suspension ! 
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| Author: | rodw [ Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Sure your suspension is not the buggered one. Thought I'd do a bit of stirring.. 
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| Author: | VitZook [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Buggered... its totally shot eh... hardly any movement due to constant binding and joint failures ... 
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| Author: | VitZook [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Hang on ... here's a pic .. you can see the binding and lack of travel quite clearly .. 
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| Author: | casper [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
gee camp hill has changed so much |
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| Author: | rodw [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
I replaced the front suspension with OME struts and springs today so now I know how it all goes together. I decided not to flip the mount just now because I was toying with making up a spacer so the mount stays right way up. So when you flip the mount, I assume that you swap the washers over as well, so the top washer is swapped with the bottom one so everything sits on the mounts nicely. Can somebody confirm this for me. Thanks. |
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| Author: | crikeymike [ Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Yes, you do install the flat washer on the lower end of the mount, and the funky non-round washer on the top, otherwise the strut could pop thru the rubber mount. |
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| Author: | rodw [ Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Mike, Thanks for the feedback. I have more or less decided to put a strut spacer in instead of the flip to keep everything lined up nicely. I have my eye on some drop brackets so was planning 30mm strut spacers, 30 mm diff drop brackets and 30 mm spring spacers. so everything comes down together. At the rear I was thinking of a 50 mm diff drop bracket and some spacers or extended springs and shocks or something. But 'cos I'm not putting big tyres on, I might not really need to do anything much. We'll wait and see |
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| Author: | rob_macca67 [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
crikeymike wrote: Yes, you do install the flat washer on the lower end of the mount, and the funky non-round washer on the top, otherwise the strut could pop thru the rubber mount.
Has anyone just left the plate as is (ie not remove the studs) and just flip the plate over and feed the plate from the top within the engine bay and bolt from underneath?? Would this create a "weak" point in that all the pressure is on the 3 nuts & the surface area under the nuts?? just curious...... Rob |
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| Author: | royce [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
mine is done like that, IE through the top) but you still have to press the studs out as it wont fit in the hole int he guard with the studs on |
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| Author: | rodw [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
When you think about this, all of the weight is on the spring, not the strut, so you should be safe provided the strut can't bottom out (ie. your bump stops on the springs are set up right to keep the weight on the spring). After all, you can compress the strut by hand. |
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| Author: | rob_macca67 [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
royce wrote: mine is done like that, IE through the top) but you still have to press the studs out as it wont fit in the hole int he guard with the studs on
I managed to get mine in from the top without removing all the studs (one stud was removed only). I just had to use a pinch bar to bend up (slightly) the part where the plate hits the inner guard when trying to insert the plate. You can't even notice where I had to bend up the inner. When I find another plate I'll try with all studs still in place... 
cheers |
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| Author: | morpheus [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
ok this whole strut mount flip looks good, im in to things that are almost free. how much does height and flex improve?? and can someone put a photo of it on here finished, so i can see what it "should" look like so i know i did it right? i'd rather not find out when the wheel falls off 
AND more of a step by step would b handy. im not really a mechanic..
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| Author: | RUGARD [ Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
crikeymike wrote: Yes, you do install the flat washer on the lower end of the mount, and the funky non-round washer on the top, otherwise the strut could pop thru the rubber mount.
Fllat washer on lower end of mount?? where? is that washer alreadon the shock? |
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| Author: | inbits [ Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Im thinking about doing the mount flip my struts are fully topped out at the moment will this help? which way is best to do it? |
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| Author: | christover1 [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Found this very helpful. I like his "spacer" idea http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-sid ... ice-2.html |
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| Author: | christover1 [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Having Old Man Emu struts, mine already has 30 - 40 mm extra travel, but I have lost this with the 25mm (thus 50mm lift) coil spacers. (So presently have stock Vit travel roughly) Thinking I don't want to stress cv's too much, or spend any more money, I may do the strut mount flip, as is less of a droop than the strut mount spacers available, and I shouldn't need to bother with diff drop brackets, as that feels counter productive? Just thinking out loud, while waiting for me HD Idler arm to appear. |
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| Author: | inbits [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
I ended up doing the mount flip was really easy and done the trick no more topping out on a stone lol |
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| Author: | christover1 [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
inbits wrote: I ended up doing the mount flip was really easy and done the trick no more topping out on a stone lol
My spending spree has to end, nearly out of Sierra parts to sell 
Can't keep getting pension advances.
So basically back to cheap stuff, and/or build stuff again. But thats ok, its part of the fun
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| Author: | christover1 [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
PS And fitting of some of the strut spacers for sale looks quite fiddly, an upturned mount be a bit easier. Does the rubber bush go in upside down, too, easily? |
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| Author: | banga [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
does the spacer on the rear help any |
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| Author: | christover1 [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
banga wrote: does the spacer on the rear help any
If you mean A-arm spacer, or coil spacer, yes to both. |
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| Author: | christover1 [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
inbits wrote: I ended up doing the mount flip was really easy and done the trick no more topping out on a stone lol
It was easier than I expected, too. Though with the already longer travel of OME struts, I am hoping it aint too much for cv's 
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| Author: | christover1 [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
rodw wrote: I replaced the front suspension with OME struts and springs today so now I know how it all goes together. I decided not to flip the mount just now because I was toying with making up a spacer so the mount stays right way up.
So when you flip the mount, I assume that you swap the washers over as well, so the top washer is swapped with the bottom one so everything sits on the mounts nicely. Can somebody confirm this for me. Thanks. Thats how I did it, right or wrong. Wasn't able to flip the actual rubber mount over, as it wouldn't come out. I had to drill out the funky shaped washer to fit the strut. |
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| Author: | christover1 [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
My spring is still under lots of tension at full droop. I added bump stop spacers of 30mm, coil spacers of 25mm, and the strut flip added about 25mm, so it is close to stock OME travel. So all should be fine with strut flip on OME. Unless the CV's go on strike for better conditions. I can see how much they work in these photos. 
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Strut mount flip - What's the next step |
Thats a CRAZY CV angle!
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