[neilss]

hi just after some help i want to get a bit more flex out of my sierra i have a spoa but think the shackles are stock, if i buy different ones would that give me more flex, if so anyone reccomend some cheers

[Lockie666]

http://www.suzistore.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=1526

Simple and CHEAP.

I didn't say effective either... I own a coily

[joeblow]

neilss wrote:

hi just after some help i want to get a bit more flex out of my sierra i have a spoa but think the shackles are stock, if i buy different ones would that give me more flex, if so anyone reccomend some cheers

DON'T put longer shackles on a spoa vehicle (or any really). and no, will not give flex, mearly take some away.

[neilss]

joeblow wrote:

neilss wrote:

hi just after some help i want to get a bit more flex out of my sierra i have a spoa but think the shackles are stock, if i buy different ones would that give me more flex, if so anyone reccomend some cheers

DON'T put longer shackles on a spoa vehicle (or any really). and no, will not give flex, mearly take some away.

so what can i do to get more flex

[LAY80N]

Figure out what is holding your flex back. Have you checked that your shocks are the correct length. Post up some pics, showing your setup. Have you looked at longer springs/RUF?

In the end how much flex do you need. As long as you have decent flex, a set of lockers and crawler gears will make a much more capable rig than stupid amounts of flex that usually end up with you car falling over.

Layto....

[neilss]

would like to do a ruf but seems like alot of work and i dont think i have the skills to do it, what about removing a leaf spring?

[ras86]

taking out leaves will help as long as your shock is up to it. i only run 3 front and rear with stock shackles and it flexs enough. ruf is quite simple.

[Fatzook]

neilss wrote:

would like to do a ruf but seems like alot of work and i dont think i have the skills to do it, what about removing a leaf spring?

I will have a RUF relocation bracket kit ready in 2 weeks. It makes it pretty much a bolt in mod.

[rythwrist]

Fatzook wrote:

neilss wrote:

would like to do a ruf but seems like alot of work and i dont think i have the skills to do it, what about removing a leaf spring?

I will have a RUF relocation bracket kit ready in 2 weeks. It makes it pretty much a bolt in mod.

Hey Pete,
What will the kit be worth

Heath

[Fatzook]

rythwrist wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

neilss wrote:

would like to do a ruf but seems like alot of work and i dont think i have the skills to do it, what about removing a leaf spring?

I will have a RUF relocation bracket kit ready in 2 weeks. It makes it pretty much a bolt in mod.

Hey Pete,
What will the kit be worth

Heath

Still gathering the costs ( not finished yet) but it should be less than a set of shackles

[zuki]

I take this would be for the back mount of the front spring bracket. How will the front shackle work as far as, will front mount need to be moved the get reasonable steering geometry back,

David

[lukes_89]

will you still need extended shackles with that bracket?

[Zook_Fan]

lukes_89 wrote:

will you still need extended shackles with that bracket?

unless he has done something amazing you will, it will simply replace the redrilling the perch

[Fatzook]

lukes_89 wrote:

will you still need extended shackles with that bracket?

You don't NEED extended shackles for RUF. It is easier to use them, but I am trying to engineer a solution that will not reuire the use of extended shackles. You will ofcoarse be able to run extended shackles with this kit, but it will not be REQUIRED.

zuki: the brackets will maintain the factory diff location and castor.

[lukes_89]

that's true you dont but im not looking at extending my chasis and only doing half ruff, but at the same time i need to buy new shackles as mine are 6inch long eye to eye which is way to long for any thing! also fat zook what will be required to install this kit? as in what will need to be done cutting welding?

[zuki]

Fatzook wrote:

lukes_89 wrote:

will you still need extended shackles with that bracket?

You don't NEED extended shackles for RUF. It is easier to use them, but I am trying to engineer a solution that will not reuire the use of extended shackles. You will ofcoarse be able to run extended shackles with this kit, but it will not be REQUIRED.

zuki: the brackets will maintain the factory diff location and castor.

Ok sweet, so what rear springs will need to be used STD rears or can Lifted rears be used (eg 2" lifted rear springs

David

[Fatzook]

lukes_89 wrote:

that's true you dont but im not looking at extending my chasis and only doing half ruff, but at the same time i need to buy new shackles as mine are 6inch long eye to eye which is way to long for any thing! also fat zook what will be required to install this kit? as in what will need to be done cutting welding?

Just drilling a few holes hopefully. I am yet to test fit it the kit so you will have to wait for the write up.

[Fatzook]

zuki wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

lukes_89 wrote:

will you still need extended shackles with that bracket?

You don't NEED extended shackles for RUF. It is easier to use them, but I am trying to engineer a solution that will not reuire the use of extended shackles. You will ofcoarse be able to run extended shackles with this kit, but it will not be REQUIRED.

zuki: the brackets will maintain the factory diff location and castor.

Ok sweet, so what rear springs will need to be used STD rears or can Lifted rears be used (eg 2" lifted rear springs

David

Its set up for STD rears, as 2" lifted rears up front can give the front a higher stance than std's when using 2"lifted in the rear. (hope that makes sense )

[lukes_89]

i have a lwb you can use as a dummy car and your last thing didnt make sense to me did you mean if you use 2" lifted in the front and 2" lifted in the rear the cars front end will sit higher then the rear?

[Fatzook]

lukes_89 wrote:

did you mean if you use 2" lifted in the front and 2" lifted in the rear the cars front end will sit higher then the rear?

Bingo

[lukes_89]

ahhhh what if you used 2" fronts on stock shackles with your kit and then put extended rear shackles on with 2" rears as well hrmm and my offer still stands for you to test this kit on lwb ill wheel it and get lots of pics haha

[Fatzook]

lukes_89 wrote:

ahhhh what if you used 2" fronts on stock shackles with your kit and then put extended rear shackles on with 2" rears as well hrmm and my offer still stands for you to test this kit on lwb ill wheel it and get lots of pics haha

LOL. We'll see.

[rythwrist]

Fatzook wrote:

zuki wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

lukes_89 wrote:

will you still need extended shackles with that bracket?

You don't NEED extended shackles for RUF. It is easier to use them, but I am trying to engineer a solution that will not reuire the use of extended shackles. You will ofcoarse be able to run extended shackles with this kit, but it will not be REQUIRED.

zuki: the brackets will maintain the factory diff location and castor.

Ok sweet, so what rear springs will need to be used STD rears or can Lifted rears be used (eg 2" lifted rear springs

David

Its set up for STD rears, as 2" lifted rears up front can give the front a higher stance than std's when using 2"lifted in the rear. (hope that makes sense )

Pete,
I have tried STD up front and they were way to soft and the car just sunk real low so had to use 2" lifted to bring front up[ to level with the back, thats why I asked.

heath

[Fatzook]

rythwrist wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

zuki wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

lukes_89 wrote:

will you still need extended shackles with that bracket?

You don't NEED extended shackles for RUF. It is easier to use them, but I am trying to engineer a solution that will not reuire the use of extended shackles. You will ofcoarse be able to run extended shackles with this kit, but it will not be REQUIRED.

zuki: the brackets will maintain the factory diff location and castor.

Ok sweet, so what rear springs will need to be used STD rears or can Lifted rears be used (eg 2" lifted rear springs

David

Its set up for STD rears, as 2" lifted rears up front can give the front a higher stance than std's when using 2"lifted in the rear. (hope that makes sense )

Pete,
I have tried STD up front and they were way to soft and the car just sunk real low so had to use 2" lifted to bring front up[ to level with the back, thats why I asked.

heath

You used old rears? Or new ones?

[zuki]

nah old ones

[Fatzook]

zuki wrote:

nah old ones

There is your problem Old springs suck. I prefer new ones with a leaf or 2 removed.

[zuki]

Fatzook wrote:

zuki wrote:

nah old ones

There is your problem Old springs suck. I prefer new ones with a leaf or 2 removed.

Pete,
Here is a pic of my RUF using 2" lifted spring I actually got from you, a while ago. As you can sort of see there is not much if any difference in height between front and rear.

David

[Fatzook]

Looking good Dave. Go the hardtop

[zuki]

Fatzook wrote:

Looking good Dave. Go the hardtop

I wasn't being sarcastic I am really interested in your kits I was merely pointing out that I tried Old Std's and they were S@$T so I tried the lifted ones and it leveled it up good as.

David

[Fatzook]

zuki wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

Looking good Dave. Go the hardtop

I wasn't being sarcastic I am really interested in your kits I was merely pointing out that I tried Old Std's and they were S@$T so I tried the lifted ones and it leveled it up good as.

David

You've got me wrong Dave. I was being serious I really like the hard tops

As for the springs, unfortunately there are infinate combinations of springs, but I can only pic one to base this kit around. At this point in time the kit has not been tested, so it may work out that it requires 2" lifted rears to get the desired result. We will have to wait and see.

Cheers
Pete