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Author:  Jccck [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  Flex Issues

So after installing my extended shocks, WT diffs and 2" lift (Which was more like 3" considering my old springs were flat)

I have noticed some flex issues, it seems to flex about the same amount it used to.. But i would have expected SO much more flex considering the huge amount of travel range avaliable

Is it possible my springs are too hard? If so is there an easy fix to achieve more flex?

Like i can put a trolley jack under the front left spring, jack it up.. And the front right wheel will also leave the ground long before the left side is even close to the bumpstop

I almost had another rollover today, because i had two wheels off the ground, and my muddies dug a huge hole for me to fall into
Luckily i had a friend to counterweight the car and we were able to get out ><

Any help/tips/advice? Thanks guys

Author:  Rusho [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Remove the load leaf

Author:  Jccck [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Rusho81 wrote:
Remove the load spring


Sorry, don't understand what you mean

Author:  joeblow [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Jccck wrote:
Rusho81 wrote:
Remove the load spring


Sorry, don't understand what you mean


niether do we....post up pics or specs........



did you keep the longer shackles on it?.....if so thats half your problem.

Author:  gypsy [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

the thick leaf

Author:  Rusho [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Leaf thingy, isn't that what leaf spring owners do?? The smaller leaf at the bottom of the cluster :oops: :oops: Search posts by 'choppy', he did something similar

Author:  Rusho [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Search function found this :roll:

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... light=flex

Author:  Jccck [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

joeblow wrote:
Jccck wrote:
Rusho81 wrote:
Remove the load spring


Sorry, don't understand what you mean


niether do we....post up pics or specs........



did you keep the longer shackles on it?.....if so thats half your problem.


It has the stock shackles, with 2" lifted springs
The spring shackle angle on both front and rear is roughly perpendicular to the ground

What other info do you need? I don't think pics will help..

Author:  joeblow [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Jccck wrote:
joeblow wrote:
Jccck wrote:
Rusho81 wrote:
Remove the load spring


Sorry, don't understand what you mean


niether do we....post up pics or specs........



did you keep the longer shackles on it?.....if so thats half your problem.


It has the stock shackles, with 2" lifted springs
The spring shackle angle on both front and rear is roughly perpendicular to the ground

What other info do you need? I don't think pics will help..



weight of car.....brand of gear........etc.....etc..........

Author:  Jccck [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

joeblow wrote:
Jccck wrote:
joeblow wrote:
Jccck wrote:
Rusho81 wrote:
Remove the load spring


Sorry, don't understand what you mean


niether do we....post up pics or specs........



did you keep the longer shackles on it?.....if so thats half your problem.


It has the stock shackles, with 2" lifted springs
The spring shackle angle on both front and rear is roughly perpendicular to the ground

What other info do you need? I don't think pics will help..



weight of car.....brand of gear........etc.....etc..........


Weight wouldn't be much different from stock
The boxes are all in the shed, will go check~

After reading that thread, it seems like i should remove 1 leaf from the front, and 2 from the back

Also is it possible i overtightened the bushes on the shackles? Would that restrict movement?

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

so what you are saying the shackles are VERTICAL, if so that is your problem.

Author:  Jccck [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

atari4x4 wrote:
so what you are saying the shackles are VERTICAL, if so that is your problem.


They are vertical yes.. Why is this a problem and how do i fix it? :D
I may seem like i know things, but really it's a front.. I have no clue ><

Author:  zukenutter [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

The load leaf is the flat one at the bottom on the rears. If you take any of the arched leaves out you'll lower the ride height. There are tapering techniques you can do to the end of each leaf which reduces friction. Shock length could be an issue, the extended length may be right but maybe they don't compress enough.

Author:  Joe [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Let the springs settle they will come down a bit then if ya still not happy take some leaves out

Author:  Jccck [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

joseph wrote:
Let the springs settle they will come down a bit then if ya still not happy take some leaves out


So, drive it like i stole/hired it for the next few weeks and it should fix itself we hope?

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Jccck wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
so what you are saying the shackles are VERTICAL, if so that is your problem.


They are vertical yes.. Why is this a problem and how do i fix it? :D
I may seem like i know things, but really it's a front.. I have no clue ><


we clearly know it's a front... we've seen what you've done to the zook. :wink: :lol:

if the shackle is vertical there is no room for any droop as it's alreay drooped as far as it can go. sounds like you got springs from 4wd Systems or some other dodgy spring maker.

Author:  Joe [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

Jccck wrote:
joseph wrote:
Let the springs settle they will come down a bit then if ya still not happy take some leaves out


So, drive it like i stole/hired it for the next few weeks and it should fix itself we hope?


Yeah if ya wana put it like that :P

Author:  Jccck [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flex Issues

atari4x4 wrote:
Jccck wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
so what you are saying the shackles are VERTICAL, if so that is your problem.


They are vertical yes.. Why is this a problem and how do i fix it? :D
I may seem like i know things, but really it's a front.. I have no clue ><


we clearly know it's a front... we've seen what you've done to the zook. :wink: :lol:

if the shackle is vertical there is no room for any droop as it's alreay drooped as far as it can go. sounds like you got springs from 4wd Systems or some other dodgy spring maker.


Thanks Atari, lol
Well from the way i understand how a leaf spring works, having a vertical shackle isn't really a huge leverage issue upward.. But would cause one downward

Is there any quick/easy fix?
Or a crazy expensive/complex one perhaps haha?

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