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| Author: | Fluffy [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | worst case scenario |
my 91 vitara is making a hell of a taping/rattling noise. thought it was tappets but checked them and all good "worst case scenario" just wondering if it does "throw a leg out of bed" where can I get a low km jap G16B from and about how much? not too keen on stuffin round with a conversion to diff motor one out of a swift will not fit i have been told something bout the dizzy? but I'am Yet to look right into it anyone? |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
did it get any quieter? the tin rocker cover does make em sound a bit rattly if your not used to it does it have good oil in it? very important wit these engines other tings to check is the bottom pulley keyway being in good nick, the bolt can come loose and flog that keywy out engines I am afraid are hard to come by due to them not being used in japan for 15 years now, they were mainly the 16valves, you can use a swift bottom end and head if you fit your cam and dizzy I would look at a rebuild if your head and so on is OK |
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
no it didnt get better when i did the tappets its got 20-50w in it I think needs an oil change/service anyways I put a bit of 20-50w in it cos it was using a bit of oil. come to think of it the noise has gotten worse since puttin that in 
what oil is recomended.? |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
not so much the weight but more the quality for some reason HPR30 always seemed to work ok for me and my smoky 1.3 that was faster than a 1.6 
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
hmm .. castrol..... I'll whack a comp tester in the plugs tonight.. see if that gives me any leads... |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
I once got told something by a very respected and long serving specialist suzuki shop "thre are heaps of oils that work really well in Suzuki engines, Castrol isnt one of them" he was right every other time
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
hmm hpr30 is penrite? |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
sure is |
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| Author: | losfer [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
Quote: engines I am afraid are hard to come by due to them not being used in japan for 15 years now, they were mainly the 16valves, you can use a swift bottom end and head if you fit your cam and dizzy
You cannot use the 1.6 litre swift head , the swift uses single point injection and therefore use oval intake ports , the g16b vitara is MPFI and has cloverleaf (sort of) shaped ports , you can by all means use the 1.6 swift bottom end though if you put you vitara sump and oil pickup tube on it. |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
I am assuming he means 8valve carby engines due to owning an 89 vintage vitara |
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| Author: | MART [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
So I have gathered by this thread that if you don't own a vitara of late model breading your a nobody and don't deserve any respect or answers to a possibly simple question , well , Cheers Paul. EDIT . Just frustrates me a little that's all , apolligies if I offended anyone , Cheers Paul. |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
MART wrote: So I have gathered by this thread that if you don't own a vitara of late model breading your a nobody and don't deserve any respect or answers to a possibly simple question , well , Cheers Paul.
I am gathering from this post you quite possbily had a bad day at work or your dog wont come when you call him, not sure what you call lack of respect but it seems the question was I have a rattly engine any ideas and where would I get another one if it comes to that and I was told a swift was no good it appears the replies were along the line of they seem to be hard engines to get due to them being old in Japan (I would have NFI seeing I dont import engines, just repeating what somebody that does tells me everytime I ask) but there are a few things that can cause a rattle that you may want to check (who wouldnt want to save money and not fit a new engine) and there was a reply from a suzuki mechanic clarifying some issues with the swift engines and G16b in general, which goes to show how confusing suzuki engine codes can be sorry if my post isnt to your standard, feel free to fire up and abuse me by the way, you have the honour of posting the 1st negative post in this entire forum, so we may as well degenerate the lot into shit |
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
thanks guys .... um i did hear somwhere that the heads were slightly diferent I have a carby 8v 1.6 I did buy that oil and topped it up and it fixed the tapping a little but will do a full change on the weekend.... thanks royce.. post note ...the oil was low/ish but made bad tapping /rattling with full oil (castrol) thanks again 
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
but it is still ratlly |
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| Author: | MART [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
I rebuilt my 1.3 a couple of times while trying to sort out the supercharger and it cost 90 to bore , 180 for new pistons and rings , bearings mains and conrods 180 and a monotorque gasket set which has a better quality gaskets especially the head gasket , 180 , so with oil , plugs , filter arround 600 dollars for a rebuild , that is doing it yourself , its not that hard if you have a manual , see how you go , the most important thing is keep everything together and in order of dissambly , clean it properly , I used petol in a big tub , then degreaser , Cheers Paul. |
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
MART wrote: I rebuilt my 1.3 a couple of times ,arround 600 dollars for a rebuild , that is doing it yourself , its not that hard if you have a manual , see how you go , the most important thing is keep everything together and in order of dissambly , clean it properly , I used petol in a big tub , then degreaser , Cheers Paul.
thanks paul ..I downloaded a suzuki one off the net.... the reason I bought this car is because I went a bit over board on my project car . after spending about 4 times as much as i had hoped to spend on the motor.... I need to save$$ to finish it.. I'm sure I would be able to rebuilid it for F*#@k all.. BUT I don't realy want to end up going all out again.... lol I might end up with something like yours..Nice work thanks again STEVE |
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| Author: | losfer [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
royce wrote: I am assuming he means 8valve carby engines due to owning an 89 vintage vitara
ohh well in that case the ports are still different , the 8 valve vitara head has round ports (like sierra but larger), not oval like the 1.6 swift head. if you are that keen to get rid of the rattle , maybe the best bet is to take it to someone who can positively identify whether the rattle is tappets , little/big end , piston slap or detonation(pinging) or other. may save you tearing down the entire engine for nothing... |
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| Author: | steve [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
fluffy, you bought the wrong car to try save money with 
nice avatar too 
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| Author: | losfer [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
Ohh and off topic , how do you know who i am royce? |
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
losfer wrote: Ohh and off topic , how do you know who i am royce?
I dont know who you are I just put 1 and 1 together from performance forums
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| Author: | steve [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
royce is stalking you
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| Author: | losfer [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
haha and who might you be there ? ohh hang on 4x4fishguy , lol , hang on theres lots of them ... |
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| Author: | royce [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
bwahahah no fish guy zooki, like most forums, now the cats out |
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
steve wrote: fluffy, you bought the wrong car to try save money with
nice avatar too haha im quickle realising that... theres so many options and things I can mod. haha oh well oh avatar..lol its me 
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| Author: | Fluffy [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: worst case scenario |
Best cause of the Rattle me and everyone else that has looked at it . .is the big end bearing..hmm. :Should I let it go till it goes bang? or pull the donk out and prepare to delve deep deep of my pockets? Decisions decisions. minimum is new bearing Maximum is ...who knows |
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