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Author:  pyrohamish [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:33 am ]
Post subject:  Dodgy Started

My starter is going clicky click
Even when i short out the positive and the switching terminal on the starter it will still go 'click', additionally sometimes i can hear the starter whizz around but doesn't seem to engage?
Usually it will wrok properly after 2 or 3 clicks depending on how cold it is

Ideas to fix this?

Author:  dominator [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

it sounds like it is the solenoid. I have never pulled a suzuki starter apart so i dont know if the soleniod is rebuildable. i would say pull it off and have a look see. my mates 80 series was doing the same thing and it was the contacts in the solenoid were worn. i welded some solder on the contact points and it was good as new.

Author:  89_tintop [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

the starter motors on the suzukis are a completely different set up to the landcruiser starters. the contacts can not be replaced easily.

and dominator you can buy the contacts in the landcruiser starter motors as a replacement part. they arent that expensive. i would suggest changing them them as solder is as hard wearing as what was original.

try wiring up a starter relay. over time wiring gets resistance in it. causing a voltage drop. so the trigger wire wont be receiving battery voltage during crank.

you will need a relay, some lengths of wiring and some crimp terminal

if your not sure how to wire up the relay it is as followed
pin 30 - to battery positive (i pick this up from the main feed to the starter motor)
pin 85 - to the trigger wire on the starter motor
pin 86 - to earth
pin 87 - to the trigger on the starter motor (where the trigger wire was)


i would be doing this first as it is an in expensive thing to do and works a treat. if it wasnt starting at all then i would suggest a starter motor

Author:  pyrohamish [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

I did think of the relay trick but because it still happens when i shorted the terminals I dont reckon it's going to help at all

Author:  89_tintop [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

what terminals did you short??

Author:  pyrohamish [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

The trigger and the positive on the solenoid...effectively giving the trigger as much amperage it wanted

Author:  89_tintop [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

well in that case i would either
A- replace the starter and wire up a relay

or

B- get yours rebuilt and wire up a relay

Author:  dominator [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

yeah solder was only a temporary fix for the weekend. have since replaced the contacts. I wasn't sure if the zook contacts could be accessed or nor.

Author:  89_tintop [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dodgy Started

it can be done.. but you have to pull the solenoid apart. no where near as easy as the nippon-denso units that the cruiser has.

i always replace it with a new solenoid

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