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Author:  Shansh [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:06 am ]
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has anyone ever tried using any parts/concepts from a big suzuki bike engine, ie, hayabusa 1300 in their g13a, etc? before anyone states the obvious & tells me they are two totally different types of engines for two totally different applications blah blah, i get all of that but i thought it might be an interesting thought considering the hayabusa is close to same displacement & also can rev its guts out & put out TONNES of power, i suppose its just my curiousity but if anyone has any thoughts it would be good to hear them.

Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:08 am ]
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Lots of guys in the USA have GSXR 1000 motors in their zooks, including the 6 speed gearboxes.

Gives you a gear for every occasion.

Author:  shep [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:11 am ]
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i reckon a outboard motor would be interesting.
mine is 1600cc 100hp at low revs weighs fuck all and the power head
is about the size of a carton of beer, has all its electrics attached to the motor
and would just need the airbox adapted to fit a air filter.

Author:  Shansh [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:19 am ]
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lump_a_charcoal wrote:
Lots of guys in the USA have GSXR 1000 motors in their zooks, including the 6 speed gearboxes.

Gives you a gear for every occasion.


hmmmmmm interesting, would be a bit if engineering in that.........

Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:52 am ]
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lump_a_charcoal wrote:
Lots of guys in the USA have GSXR 1000 motors in their zooks, including the 6 speed gearboxes.

Gives you a gear for every occasion.



what about reverse?

my old man was involved in a hill climb special that was powered by a large outboard engine of some sort, essentially an oversized gokart with gears & suspension & from what he use to say it was deadly fast & sometimes it wouldn't trigger the finish line light beam due to it being airborne over the finish line. 8O

Author:  royce [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:04 am ]
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shep wrote:
i reckon a outboard motor would be interesting.
mine is 1600cc 100hp at low revs weighs fuck all and the power head
is about the size of a carton of beer, has all its electrics attached to the motor
and would just need the airbox adapted to fit a air filter.


ive always thought an outboard would be cool, hard work setting it up for cooling though

Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:35 am ]
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royce wrote:
shep wrote:
i reckon a outboard motor would be interesting.
mine is 1600cc 100hp at low revs weighs fuck all and the power head
is about the size of a carton of beer, has all its electrics attached to the motor
and would just need the airbox adapted to fit a air filter.


ive always thought an outboard would be cool, hard work setting it up for cooling though


Beat me to it.. :roll: :P

Author:  shep [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:44 am ]
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steknig wrote:
royce wrote:
shep wrote:
i reckon a outboard motor would be interesting.
mine is 1600cc 100hp at low revs weighs fuck all and the power head
is about the size of a carton of beer, has all its electrics attached to the motor
and would just need the airbox adapted to fit a air filter.


ive always thought an outboard would be cool, hard work setting it up for cooling though


Beat me to it.. :roll: :P


someone that knows stuff would be able to sort the cooling though. :wink: :lol:

Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:05 am ]
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shep wrote:
steknig wrote:
royce wrote:
shep wrote:
i reckon a outboard motor would be interesting.
mine is 1600cc 100hp at low revs weighs fuck all and the power head
is about the size of a carton of beer, has all its electrics attached to the motor
and would just need the airbox adapted to fit a air filter.


ive always thought an outboard would be cool, hard work setting it up for cooling though


Beat me to it.. :roll: :P


someone that knows stuff would be able to sort the cooling though. :wink: :lol:


Out of my league then.. :roll: :wink: :lol: :lol:

Author:  89_tintop [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:03 am ]
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wouldnt be too hard to set up the cooling system'

Author:  89_tintop [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:04 am ]
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now you got me thinking...

got a 115hp sitting on my garage floor at the moment...........




will be a little jump from the suzi engine

Author:  alex [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:08 am ]
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hayabusa engine in a smart car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdJ84nho ... re=related


so i guess it could be done

Author:  shep [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:13 am ]
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alex wrote:
hayabusa engine in a smart car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdJ84nho ... re=related


so i guess it could be done


anything can be done it just depends on how much cash you are prepared to spend :wink:

hay 89_tintop is it a 4 stroke?

Author:  royce [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:34 am ]
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good point, if it was a 2stroke you would have to put it in an lj

Author:  want33s [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:36 am ]
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Years ago it used to be quite common in the NT for 40HP Johnson outboard powerheads to replace LJ motors... I've personally never seen one though so I don't know about the cooling side of it but my father sold lots of Johnson/Evinrude motors to Zook owners when I was a young tacka.

Author:  89_tintop [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:37 am ]
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no 2 stroke..........


you reckon in a lj royce???

Author:  alex [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:41 am ]
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shep wrote:
alex wrote:
hayabusa engine in a smart car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdJ84nho ... re=related


so i guess it could be done


anything can be done it just depends on how much cash you are prepared to spend :wink:

hay 89_tintop is it a 4 stroke?



verry true :o

Author:  89_tintop [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:41 am ]
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want33s wrote:
Years ago it used to be quite common in the NT for 40HP Johnson outboard powerheads to replace LJ motors... I've personally never seen one though so I don't know about the cooling side of it but my father sold lots of Johnson/Evinrude motors to Zook owners when I was a young tacka.


mine is a johnson...


now i am really thinking..

Author:  shep [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:04 am ]
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there is a 2 stroke V6 at the dump here. :D would sound great with the right exhaust.
actually i reckon the exhaust would be the hardest thing to get right. :wink:

Author:  Shansh [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:20 am ]
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i would love to see a hayabusa & g13a engine next to each other, even if something could be done with the internals.............but i really dont think i would wanna go that fast in my zook, but its fun to ponder.........

Author:  royce [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:29 am ]
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150hp at 9500rpm isnt real tractable in a sierra :)

good when you only weight 250kg though

Author:  Shansh [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:30 am ]
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i hear ya, but like i said its fun to ponder stuff, cursed with an imagination i guess

Author:  royce [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:40 am ]
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I reckon if you google hard enough you could get headgasket dimensions of both, that could tell you a lot

somebody once figured you could fit a bmw bike head onto a mini block, so anything is possible with enough looking

Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:06 am ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
lump_a_charcoal wrote:
Lots of guys in the USA have GSXR 1000 motors in their zooks, including the 6 speed gearboxes.

Gives you a gear for every occasion.



what about reverse?



You retain the sierra boxes as well.

Apparently there is a guy on Pirate who is designing a kit...

Author:  rabrarley [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:09 pm ]
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outboard would be hard to fit to a bell housing and to fit a clutch




to much work :/

Author:  sideways [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:55 pm ]
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rabrarley wrote:
outboard would be hard to fit to a bell housing and to fit a clutch




to much work :/


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Just depends on your imagination/skills I guess.

My dream is to have a 2 stroke outboard engine in my LJ.

I'm thinking something smaller like a Suzuki DT55, maybe something with 70-80HP though. It would have to be a 3 cyl.

IMO the hardest part would be fitting a car style flywheel and giving a spot for the spigot to go. That'd be solved by making a boss to bolt the the end of the crank, that'd give you some extra space for a bell housing adapter of sorts too. I don't have the tools to make that (yet) though. :(

I will do this one day, definite bucket list stuff.

I'm always on the lookout for a cheap/half dead DT55 outboard to experiment with...

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