...am i the only one with the left sagged worse than the right??
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| Author: | Lhyriel [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | sagg on right hand side from suspension |
is there a more weight bearing stronger suspension that will produce less sag? |
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| Author: | zooker [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
That would be the suzuki lean. Put an extra leaf in drivers side. |
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| Author: | Lhyriel [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
how would i do that? can i take a leaf from passengers side (weight bearing leaf) and put it on the drivers side? and do the same for the rear? |
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| Author: | whincup [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
...am i the only one with the left sagged worse than the right??
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| Author: | Lhyriel [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
its pretty rare for the left, maybe your shocks are gone? or your weight bearing leafs arent on? |
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| Author: | alien [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
try swapping the left and right springs first... if that fails rather than adding an extra leaf and stiffening one side, look at putting a spacer under the other side to lower that side of the car in the spring pack (a cut-down leaf or 2 will do it) (assuming you're SPUA). |
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| Author: | Lhyriel [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
thanks heaps alien! ill deffinately try swapping over the leafs, pretty sure that will work but if that doesnt i might go to heavy old man emu suspension lift and theyll fix the lean, defsf dont want to exactly fork out 1500 at the moment. really appreciated! |
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| Author: | appsie [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
you will bolt a brand new ome kit in and it will still lean within a day or two. its part of owning a zuk i think 
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| Author: | Lhyriel [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
i kinda guessed that, but its just so severe at the moment, anything would be good to minimalise it hoping leaf side swap will help 
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| Author: | Nagz [ Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
alien wrote: try swapping the left and right springs first... if that fails rather than adding an extra leaf and stiffening one side, look at putting a spacer under the other side to lower that side of the car in the spring pack (a cut-down leaf or 2 will do it) (assuming you're SPUA).
So does that mean front and rears? |
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| Author: | Taylor74 [ Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
Nagz wrote: alien wrote: try swapping the left and right springs first... if that fails rather than adding an extra leaf and stiffening one side, look at putting a spacer under the other side to lower that side of the car in the spring pack (a cut-down leaf or 2 will do it) (assuming you're SPUA). So does that mean front and rears? I always start with the rears as they are the stiffer spring and is where most of the uneven weight sits, do a measure and poss do the front aswell. Is only a temp fix though, will still lean right after time. 
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
appsie wrote: you will bolt a brand new ome kit in and it will still lean within a day or two.
its part of owning a zuk i think When I ordered my OME suspension set up, they asked me heaps of questions, like, my weight, what I intended it for, will there be passengers, will I be having much load in the rear etc. I have given my toy a fair thrashing, and am very pleased with the results, no sag either to the right, or either front or rear, over all, I rate OME very highly. |
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| Author: | crewsy [ Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
Lhyriel wrote: thanks heaps alien! ill deffinately try swapping over the leafs, pretty sure that will work but if that doesnt i might go to heavy old man emu suspension lift and theyll fix the lean, defsf dont want to exactly fork out 1500 at the moment. really appreciated!
Your wasting your time swapping them, give it an hour and it will be exactly the same again. Add a spacer in like alien suggested before going out and getting new packs then. |
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| Author: | Kermy87 [ Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
Just a question,, how is it exactly do they sag, I bought a brand new set of EFS springs for mine bout 1 yr ago, my Zuke has barely left the shed ive driven it possibly 10 times , and the drivers sagged 45mm just sitting there, efs replaced them ,thank god, is there more weight on the drivers side?? Or are they really just EFS (Easilly Fuc#ed Suspension) |
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| Author: | shep [ Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
there is more weight on the drivers side. battery, transfer, spare tyre and most of the fuel tank is on the drivers side. |
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| Author: | kirstyandgrace [ Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
As well as the driver, that seat is always occupied the other one not always. Judging by the post your pic thread there are some cars that should be riding on the bump stops on the right hand side.
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| Author: | Nagz [ Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
crewsy wrote: Lhyriel wrote: thanks heaps alien! ill deffinately try swapping over the leafs, pretty sure that will work but if that doesnt i might go to heavy old man emu suspension lift and theyll fix the lean, defsf dont want to exactly fork out 1500 at the moment. really appreciated! Your wasting your time swapping them, give it an hour and it will be exactly the same again. Add a spacer in like alien suggested before going out and getting new packs then. Mine are OME but not sure on age, Should i get a spacer if i get new springs. Also what is a spacer, where do you get them and can i put it in myself? |
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| Author: | Teracis [ Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
So with all this talk of suzuki lean and patching up the problems, has anyone actually tried to balance one out i.e. move the battery, shift the tank e.t.c.? |
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| Author: | Mrhb2u [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
I've just put in a brand new OME 2' lift set of springs and OME shockies and I have a 40mm drop on the right side, is that normal? Could it be something else other than the suspension, twisted chasis perhaps???? It looks ridiculous!! |
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| Author: | boostedbrick [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
Mrhb2u wrote: I've just put in a brand new OME 2' lift set of springs and OME shockies and I have a 40mm drop on the right side, is that normal? Could it be something else other than the suspension, twisted chasis perhaps???? It looks ridiculous!!
Could you get a picture?.. AFAIK with the OME stuff there is a drivers side pack and passenger side pack.. Could be in the wrong way.. |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
Teracis wrote: So with all this talk of suzuki lean and patching up the problems, has anyone actually tried to balance one out i.e. move the battery, shift the tank e.t.c.?
Yes. Putting the battery under the passenger's seat, centring the fuel tank, and not running a spare all help. Even with all that done though, it's still normal to need an extra leaf on the driver's side. We corner weighted a bunch of cars at a tech night earlier in the year and they were around 50Kg heavier on the RHF. Steve. |
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| Author: | ZookFan [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
boostedbrick wrote: Mrhb2u wrote: I've just put in a brand new OME 2' lift set of springs and OME shockies and I have a 40mm drop on the right side, is that normal? Could it be something else other than the suspension, twisted chasis perhaps???? It looks ridiculous!! Could you get a picture?.. AFAIK with the OME stuff there is a drivers side pack and passenger side pack.. Could be in the wrong way.. Wow I never knew this??  
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| Author: | boostedbrick [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
ZookFan wrote: boostedbrick wrote: Mrhb2u wrote: I've just put in a brand new OME 2' lift set of springs and OME shockies and I have a 40mm drop on the right side, is that normal? Could it be something else other than the suspension, twisted chasis perhaps???? It looks ridiculous!! Could you get a picture?.. AFAIK with the OME stuff there is a drivers side pack and passenger side pack.. Could be in the wrong way.. Wow I never knew this?? I may be wrong but I thought that's what was said on here
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| Author: | Damo [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
shep wrote: there is more weight on the drivers side. battery, transfer, spare tyre and most of the fuel tank is on the drivers side.
Says the fat bastard 
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| Author: | Mrhb2u [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
boostedbrick wrote: Mrhb2u wrote: I've just put in a brand new OME 2' lift set of springs and OME shockies and I have a 40mm drop on the right side, is that normal? Could it be something else other than the suspension, twisted chasis perhaps???? It looks ridiculous!! Could you get a picture?.. AFAIK with the OME stuff there is a drivers side pack and passenger side pack.. Could be in the wrong way.. They never said anything about this though?!?! |
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| Author: | 2stroker [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
Are you serious, are some of you guys running uneven amount of leaves one side to the other. I wouldn't consider running more leaves one side than the other, I cannot see that as being a sound practice, I am sure that it is frowned upon and that if you are in an accident and had your car inspected it would be declared defected and unsafe, you would be hung out to dry by insurance. Please just go buy some springs or change them side to side. Steve who did the tech night, what scales did they use and was that 50KG heavier RHF with a driver in the car? |
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| Author: | Damo [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
My preference is to put more arch (preload) on the drivers side spring. |
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| Author: | sideways [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
Damo wrote: My preference is to put more arch (preload) on the drivers side spring.
X 11ty billion. My LJ actually leans 2.5cm to the passengers side. 
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
2stroker wrote: Are you serious, are some of you guys running uneven amount of leaves one side to the other.
Steve who did the tech night, what scales did they use and was that 50KG heavier RHF with a driver in the car? From memory the 50Kg was with driver. I ran the tech night with SierraJim at his workshop. He has calibrated scales. Yes, I am totally serious about running more rate on the heavy side. Increasing camber on the RHS eventually leads to sag returning and the process of swapping left to right continues. More weight=more rate in my book. Steve. PS - From memory, factory 60 series ran different packs left to right in the front. |
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| Author: | squibby [ Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sagg on right hand side from suspension |
My drivers side sags as per many suzukis. I put 10mm spacers into the drivers side and it still sagged. My conclusion is something is 'pulling' the suspension into that shape. I think it's the panhards because they go from uper drivers side to lower passenger side. If it was the other way around probably the passenger side would sag a little. Thats my theory. especially when you use stock panhards on a raised vehicle like I am running. |
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