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shippo
Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 74 Location: tamworth nsw
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Hey all am looking at a set of reduction gears for my zooki and was just wondering if there are any advantages / disadvantages apart from the slower crawl speed
Cheers Sean
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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+Awesome low range
+Wayyy better high range
+Better acceleration
+Better fuel economy
Negatives?? Well just you have to spend some $$ and some time installing them but thats what you would do with pretty much any add on.
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shippo
Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 74 Location: tamworth nsw
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am a bit stuck have been reading a bit on here and everyoine says they help high range thbut are they talkingg about high 4 or high 2 but if they are talking about high 2 how do they affect 2wding ???? am new to all this so ay explanation is welcome
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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High 2 and High 4 use the same gears, its just whether the front output is engaged or not.
Reduction gears will help restore good road gearing with larger tyres. That is one of the big advantages. The other is the reduction in low range to give you a nice low crawl.
When it comes to reduction gears you need to weigh up a number of things such as tyre size, how much highway driving you do, and what sort of 4WDing you do in order to get the right gears for the application.
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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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Advantages.
Torque Multiplication - more available grunt and control (go more places easier)
Disadvantages.
Torque Multiplication - more loading on all of your moving parts (more time on auszookers looking for answers about the weird grinding noises your drivetrain is making)
_________________ JrZook - Mine only hangs 2.5".
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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You dont _need_ to do it till you go above 29s apparently.
I only used 5th gear going down a hill on the freeway with the stock transfer case gears and 31" tires.
I have a 1L Tcase in mine, which has fixed highway, and is pretty good in 2L, but I still use more revs and more clutch than I would like on the steep stuff.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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matfan wrote: Advantages. Torque Multiplication - more available grunt and control (go more places easier)
Disadvantages. Torque Multiplication - more loading on all of your moving parts (more time on auszookers looking for answers about the weird grinding noises your drivetrain is making)
Yes and no.
I know whats better for your drivetrain... 31's with gears, not 31's without... its not just about gears, its the whole setup.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Ben_Sierra wrote: matfan wrote: Advantages. Torque Multiplication - more available grunt and control (go more places easier)
Disadvantages. Torque Multiplication - more loading on all of your moving parts (more time on auszookers looking for answers about the weird grinding noises your drivetrain is making) Yes and no. I know whats better for your drivetrain... 31's with gears, not 31's without... its not just about gears, its the whole setup.
its easier on components forward of the transfer, but loads after, i.e diffs and tailshafts still have similar or much higher torque loadings, hence all the need to beef up stuff after the t/case.
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dano_mung
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Brisbane
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shippo wrote: am a bit stuck have been reading a bit on here and everyoine says they help high range thbut are they talkingg about high 4 or high 2 but if they are talking about high 2 how do they affect 2wding ???? am new to all this so ay explanation is welcome
In Sierra's reduction gearing effect both the high and low range ratios.
Most other car reduction gear changes only effect low range.
This is an advantage if your car is already on big enough tyres or can handle an upgrade without too much problems (patrol/cruisers).
But in the zook case it also helps to bring your overall ratios back to near standard or better with larger tyres.
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