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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:22 am |
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today i went to autobarn and got some spark plugs for my suzuki sierra, but i forgot to take a sample so they had to look it up only problem was that i told them that i might have a 1.6 vatara head on my 1.3 block, im not sure as the seller said it hat a 1.6 head, so i consumed it was, so when i came home with the spark plugs which are BP5ES. i checked with the original ones and they were BP6ES, so im just wondering will they fit and wat spark plugs fit in a 1.6 head and wat will fit in a 1.3 head, as i dont have a clue wat head it is
much appreciated
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:40 am |
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use the BP6ES plugs as they are suited better to todays shitty fuel better.
B4T
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:46 am |
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dam ok, well ill have to take the spark plugs back and get the right ones
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:06 am |
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what will happen if i use the BP5ES ones?
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nissvit
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 184 Location: Brisbane
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:20 am |
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well the plugs i bought are NGK BP5ES so your saying theyll run hotter then the BP6ES ones
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dominator
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 97 Location: Noosa QLD
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:36 am |
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yeah they are hotter. i dont see it being a major problem. the plugs will probably just wear out a bit faster. you can change them if you want but if it was me i would just use them. but i am lazy.
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:02 am |
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just be aware that they are a hotter plug, dont do any extended high speed driving, if it was me i would run em, would only be a worry if it was a bp4es etc but one heat range is usually ok
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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If your timing has been advanced for higher octane fuel, you may find you experience predetonation due to the spark plugs getting too hot.
Which is why many people swap to the BP6ES.
If you look at your old plugs, and they are fouled up internally, your plugs are running too cold and the BP5ES would be better suited.
Also consider tuning the carby if they are heavily fouled.
This is some useful info posted a few months ago.
I always have a good squiz at my plugs when servicing to see whats going on during combustion.
http://www.4secondsflat.com/Spark_plug_reading.html
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:18 am |
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ok thanks guys, they are in ill see wat happens
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:34 am |
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freshly rebuilt engines will have a higher compression and on todays fuel pinging is quite likely to occur. if this happends you should adjust your timing and run a cooler plug. Pinging can happen even without you knowing if things are not right inside your engine. Todays fuel is crap compared to what it was when the suzuki was built. My newly rebuilt motor has the same compression as it says in the FSMbut it pings on everything but the highest octane fuel and only with the timing set back at 4deg.
I run the BP6ES plugs. made a huge difference in my motor .
B4T
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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Built4thrashing wrote: freshly rebuilt engines will have a higher compression and on todays fuel pinging is quite likely to occur. if this happends you should adjust your timing and run a cooler plug. Pinging can happen even without you knowing if things are not right inside your engine. Todays fuel is crap compared to what it was when the suzuki was built. My newly rebuilt motor has the same compression as it says in the FSMbut it pings on everything but the highest octane fuel and only with the timing set back at 4deg.
I run the BP6ES plugs. made a huge difference in my motor .
B4T
i have a vitara head so thats more compression ny way then the sierra head, i need to get my timing looked at as i have pre ignition and my car runs like shit
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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ummmm 1.3 is BP5es, go look under bonnets
1.3 in a swift is a 6, 1.6 is a 6
just fit em, youll never know the difference, shit my sierra had every combination of BP, BK, BC, BPR, BKR, BCP, in 5 6 and 7 and youd never know the difference
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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royce wrote: ummmm 1.3 is BP5es, go look under bonnets  1.3 in a swift is a 6, 1.6 is a 6 just fit em, youll never know the difference, shit my sierra had every combination of BP, BK, BC, BPR, BKR, BCP, in 5 6 and 7 and youd never know the difference
yea the bp6es came out of it, i just end up putting the bp5es in i couldnt be bothered taking them back, got a discount ny way
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