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Author:  icym88 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:12 pm ]
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Hi guys, I was referred to this site which I didn't even know exsisted until today, hopefully someone can help me with my baby?! :cry:

Basically I was driving along the highway and there was this really loud bang which came from the engine. I got the car towed back to my place in brissie and haven't touched it since (three weeks ago). It does still start if its turned on but it's really really rough and doesn't sound healthy at all. I don't know anything about cars being a girl and all but would be grateful for any suggestions etc about what exactly I'm looking at and who could fix it :) I'm a bit weary of taking it to a garage to get fixed, would prefer a bit of reasonable and trustworthy help!
Author:  royce [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:14 pm ]
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did it / does it blow any smoke now?

is there any signs of a lot of oil coming from it anywhere?
Author:  SuziBlu [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:37 pm ]
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Surely there are some members onsite that will go help a damsel in distress.

Take a compression tester.
Author:  JrZook [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:47 pm ]
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How many k's on the car/engine? Where abouts is the vehicle located?

Cheers Dan
Author:  icym88 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:56 pm ]
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Nope, no oil or smoke, nothing. Almost done 122000km. She's just sitting in the sun in Taringa, perishing away...I could put her down undercover but I'm scared I'll never manage to get her out of the garage again!
Author:  stockman [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:57 pm ]
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SuziBlu wrote:
Surely there are some members onsite that will go help a damsel in distress.

Take a compression tester.


Shouldn't be a problem getting someone off here to help. Half of the members are in QLD anyway.
Author:  alien [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:01 am ]
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im betting the auto-choke is gone and what you got was a backfire. Used to happen to me when my choke died...
Author:  Highway-Star [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:01 am ]
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What year?

If its a very late leafy, were they prone to the piston skirt problem some coilys had?


I got some mates that live in Taringa, but they know stuff all about cars :roll: One thought cars went forward because of exhaust gas untill I set him straight about 3 years ago :lol:
Author:  SuziBlu [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:02 am ]
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lol yep, heaps, thats why I thought, crikey, carn members, get ya A into gear an help.

122,000 is very small Ks for a suzi, hope its ok for ya.
Author:  buzbox [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:16 am ]
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A big bang and clacking sound from the engine can't be good news, It's usually caused by vital components going walkabouts, So just be prepared to hear that it may need a heart transplant.

I can only suggest for you to open the oil cap and see if the oil is a milky white colour, That's a good idication of water mixing with oil which is usually cause by a blown head gasket, it wouldn't really make a loud bang noise as your driving along but it may help to understand whats happening.

I'm sure one of the members in Brisbane are willing to go over and help you out. Just get some cookies ready for them :)
Author:  icym88 [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:22 am ]
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Well the guy I got it from said he only used it on weekends for a bit of fun, I think he was telling the truth?! It's a 1996. I've never heard/felt a backfire before but I guess it could've been something like that. When I opened the bonnet to listen to it when i turned it on again it sounded like there was something broken in the engine though?
Author:  Highway-Star [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:32 am ]
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icym88 wrote:
It's a 1996.


Very late leaf sprung model going by that and your avatar.


I'd bet its a piston skirt failure, like the coily's are prone too; being such a late model pistons were probably made in the same batch as coilys. It's no fault of the vehicle's owner/s, it's a manufacturing defect.
If my guesstimate is right, your looking at a rebuild or replacement engine :(


What would be the best way to check that? I would think remove the sump?
Not sure if a compression test would say much?
Author:  icym88 [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:54 am ]
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I don't know what a coily is but I do know what an engine replacement is :( Thanks for all the help guys, keep it coming!
Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:27 am ]
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If it was just a backfire it wouldn't sound broken when you try to run it now.

If it sounds like something is broken in the engine then it probably is. Which means either rebuild or replace. Or upgrade ;)
Author:  buzbox [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:38 am ]
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Coily = Coil spring suspention = Late 96+ sierra's, They have a different motor and suspention setup compared to the earlier versions, I think Highway Star was tring to determine what engine you have in it by the type of suspension it has.

It seems like your's is the last of the early model, Leaf spring suspension aka Leafy Sierra. Because they changed over in '96, your's might use some engine parts from the late model sierra which were found to be of shitter quality.

I hope that kinda makes sense.
Author:  Highway-Star [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:43 am ]
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icym88 wrote:
I don't know what a coily is but I do know what an engine replacement is :( Thanks for all the help guys, keep it coming!



You probably don't want to know...haha, they cause endless trauma to their unfortunate owners :lol:


Late type leaf sprung Sierra (what yours appears to be)
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Coil sprung Sierra.
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The Coil sprung Sierra was the next model after the leaf sprung models. It looks a bit more "bling", but also has a very different suspension type.

They both run the same type of motor (A Suzuki G13), but Suzuki produced a batch of engine pistons (a critical component in most engine types) which were prone to breaking apart. Generally this batch of pistons made it into the coil sprung model (coily), but yours being such a late model leaf sprung vehicle, I'm guessing yours may essentially have a coil sprung model engine. The coil sprung models also had a different timing belt. I know someone with a late 1995 leaf sprung Sierra who's engine and gearbox are essentially the coil model type.

G13 engines can be had cheap, and you probably only need the bottom end. The rest of that model engine is fine, and not prone to failure. I actually had a coily top end on my leafy engine for a few years before I sold the motor.
Problem is finding a good motor that doesn't smoke like Winston Churchill :lol:


Anyway, my ramblings are all well and good, but my idea would need to be verified (likely by partial disassembly of the engine) before you go buying stuff.
Author:  royce [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:14 am ]
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Holy Doom and Gloom people!!!!! what is it with problems and people trying to out do each other with a bad situation!!

piston skirt would almost certainly lead to hole on block and oil and smoke everywhere, plus letting go on the highway would lead to a lot crazier description than a bang and pulling over, there would be fire and brimstone and all sorts of stuff going on!!!
Author:  royce [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:54 am ]
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Stekky said he will have a look but you have to beg, at least thats what I think he meant :)
Author:  steve [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:03 am ]
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icym88 wrote:
Hi guys, I was referred to this site which I didn't even know exsisted until today, !


How/who referred you here? :D

Yeah get stekky or scrawnc to have a look. You could go in circles on here with people trying to diagnose problems. .... like it could have been a cat wrapped around the fan :lol:
Author:  buzbox [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:06 am ]
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royce wrote:
Holy Doom and Gloom people!!!!! what is it with problems and people trying to out do each other with a bad situation!!


Until someone has a good look at it in person, I guess it's a case of, Expect the worst and hope for the best.. :)
Author:  Highway-Star [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:26 am ]
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royce wrote:
Holy Doom and Gloom people!!!!! what is it with problems and people trying to out do each other with a bad situation!!


Thats what comes from living in the real world, life sucks. You do know the Sun will eventually swallow the Earth? so who cares what happens anyhow.....lets all go outside and commit suicide en-masse :roll:

Happy?
Author:  steak_knife [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:59 am ]
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royce wrote:
Stekky said he will have a look but you have to beg, at least thats what I think he meant :)


:roll: ok... :roll:

Pm me if your address & time you will be home..
Author:  shadowman55 [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:27 am ]
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steknig wrote:
royce wrote:
Stekky said he will have a look but you have to beg, at least thats what I think he meant :)


:roll: ok... :roll:

Pm me if your address & time you will be home..


After you finish looking at her zook, can you come over and fix mine? :P
Author:  steak_knife [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:01 am ]
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shadowman55 wrote:
steknig wrote:
royce wrote:
Stekky said he will have a look but you have to beg, at least thats what I think he meant :)


:roll: ok... :roll:

Pm me if your address & time you will be home..


After you finish looking at her zook, can you come over and fix mine? :P


:P No!! :P :lol: :lol:

I am temped to open up my own workshop tho.. :P but bugger that :lol: :lol:
Author:  stockman [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:06 am ]
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Stekky the Suzuki and Steak knifeSpecialist

Better get the Scully sorted first.
Author:  icym88 [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:21 am ]
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steknig wrote:
royce wrote:
Stekky said he will have a look but you have to beg, at least thats what I think he meant :)


:roll: ok... :roll:

Pm me if your address & time you will be home..


Well, I didn't really have to beg, but I've still got time :D :D
Author:  steak_knife [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:22 am ]
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icym88 wrote:
steknig wrote:
royce wrote:
Stekky said he will have a look but you have to beg, at least thats what I think he meant :)


:roll: ok... :roll:

Pm me if your address & time you will be home..


Well, I didn't really have to beg, but I've still got time :D :D


Now's a good time to start then!!! :roll: :lol: :lol:
Author:  SuziBlu [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:58 am ]
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peaceout Good onya Steky.
Author:  steak_knife [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:08 am ]
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Spat no3 spark plug out, still had enough thread to tighten up again & this lil red wagon is going again.. :P
Author:  steve [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:11 am ]
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steknig wrote:
Spat no3 spark plug out, still had enough thread to tighten up again & this lil red wagon is going again.. :P


stekland is a legend!!! :D
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