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Author:  zooktastic [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  g16b wont start :(
hey guys i have recently installed a g16b out of a baleno into my zook, upon trying to start the sucker i have come to find it has no spark or injector pulse, any help would be greatly appreciated

cheers, mick
Author:  Buddies72 [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:00 pm ]
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Hey mick,

I'm no expert in suzuki stuff as I've just bought my first zook today, but in my experience with efi transplants you will need to check your earth wires. Funny thing with efi is most earths want to go to the negative on the battery. Earth to chassis body or engine block just doesn't work.

Hope his helps.

Buddies
Author:  Fatzook [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:12 pm ]
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zooktastic wrote:
hey guys i have recently installed a g16b out of a baleno into my zook, upon trying to start the sucker i have come to find it has no spark or injector pulse, any help would be greatly appreciated

cheers, mick


Mate this is going to be pretty hard to diagnose over a computer screen. You may need to enlist the help of a sparky.

But one question.... Has it run in the sierra at all?
Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:17 pm ]
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Buddies72 wrote:
Hey mick,

I'm no expert in suzuki stuff as I've just bought my first zook today, but in my experience with efi transplants you will need to check your earth wires. Funny thing with efi is most earths want to go to the negative on the battery. Earth to chassis body or engine block just doesn't work.

Hope his helps.

Buddies


Hi, You right in a way, but there is ALWAYS an earth that has to go to the eng, it's always a grouped earth that will want to be on the inlet manifold..
Author:  zooktastic [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:34 pm ]
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nah it hasnt run yet, i earthed the group earth to the body so that may be causing me some dramas, ill earth it to the inlet manifold and see if that solves it :D
Author:  zooktastic [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:02 pm ]
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changed the grouped earth to under the inlet manifold and still no good.
Author:  losfer [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:49 am ]
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you arent getting a cranking signal .
Author:  BenT [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:58 am ]
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What wires did you splice into the Sierra loom?

What does the fuel pump do when you disconnect the start wire from the solenoid on the starter and turn the key to the on position and then to the start position?

Ben
Author:  zooktastic [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:09 am ]
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the starter functions as i have that on the sierra cct along with the alternator. so it turns over but i get no spark and no injector pulse. the rest is baleno. starting to wonder if my camshaft position sensor is fucked. any good way to check? going 2 the wrecking yard 2moro to look at a baleno and maybe get some ideas. got a feeling my loom is wrong as it doesnt match any of the diagrams i have seen.
Author:  losfer [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:23 am ]
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your loom should have a sticker with the part number of the loom on it , your ecu will also have a part number , if you give both of these part numbers to me , i can see if they are compatable
Author:  zooktastic [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:04 am ]
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where abouts shall i look for the sticker? i couldnt see anything obvious... :(
Author:  losfer [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:33 am ]
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the part that runs under the dash , it will , or should have the part number on it ...
Author:  BenT [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:15 am ]
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zooktastic wrote:
the starter functions as i have that on the sierra cct along with the alternator. so it turns over but i get no spark and no injector pulse. the rest is baleno.


The starter should be on the Sierra loom, but their should also be a tap into that wire going to the computer.

Try what I said and disconnect the starter wire from the solenoid and turn the key to on and and then to start.

The fuel pump should run for a second or two when your turn the key to on, and then stop. Then when you turn the key to start it should run continuosly till you let off they key, then is should stop straight away.

This checks the power feeds to the ECU is correct.


Ben
Author:  Brett [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:46 am ]
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is the vitara loom there are 3 or 4 wire going to the back top section of the inlet manifold just near where the brake vac line is.

these need to be on the car. i spent a few hours yesterday trying to work out why i had no spark. put them on and started it no problems
Author:  JrZook [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:00 am ]
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zooktastic wrote:
the starter functions as i have that on the sierra cct along with the alternator. so it turns over but i get no spark and no injector pulse. the rest is baleno. starting to wonder if my camshaft position sensor is fucked. any good way to check? going 2 the wrecking yard 2moro to look at a baleno and maybe get some ideas. got a feeling my loom is wrong as it doesnt match any of the diagrams i have seen.


Wouldn't jump straight to conclusions that the cam sensor outta all things is buggered. Deffo if you think you wiring might be wrong. Last few posts are quite good, I'd try and follow their advise first. Check that the ECu is turning on the fuel pump etc (cam sensor will have nothing to do with this)
Dan
Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:40 am ]
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One singe earth could make both inj pulse & spark non operational.. Go over you diagram again..

I did one yesterday & one earth stopped the coil from firing..

:P run's now tho!!! :P
Author:  JrZook [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:09 am ]
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steak_knife wrote:
One singe earth could make both inj pulse & spark non operational.. Go over you diagram again..

I did one yesterday & one earth stopped the coil from firing..

:P run's now tho!!! :P



Ya got your running already? :P
Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:15 am ]
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JrZook wrote:
steak_knife wrote:
One singe earth could make both inj pulse & spark non operational.. Go over you diagram again..

I did one yesterday & one earth stopped the coil from firing..

:P run's now tho!!! :P



Ya got your running already? :P


Yep, Friggen load straight out the extractor's.. :lol:
Author:  JrZook [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:00 am ]
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steak_knife wrote:
JrZook wrote:
steak_knife wrote:
One singe earth could make both inj pulse & spark non operational.. Go over you diagram again..

I did one yesterday & one earth stopped the coil from firing..

:P run's now tho!!! :P



Ya got your running already? :P


Yep, Friggen load straight out the extractor's.. :lol:


Woooooooo win!! Imma gonna have to come over and do some tire kicking! :D
Author:  zooktastic [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:53 am ]
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all sorted, turns out the pulse thingy inside the distributor was wrong and when swaped with a baleno one the beast came to life!!! my god it loves to rev. now i just gotta pull the box out of gear and take the bugger for a spin! thanks for your help fellas!
Author:  PJ.zook [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:11 am ]
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Good to hear you got it running.
Author:  steak_knife [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:33 am ]
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PJ.zook wrote:
Good to hear you got it running.


X2.. :P :P 8)
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