flat as in inverted?? i had the same problem when i went EFS so i moved my front shackel mount forward more
or i guess you could fit longer shackels 
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| Author: | 819FKA [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ruf Dramas |
hi guys i did a RUF conversion on my zook a while ago and changed the leaves this weekend to EFS Brand newies, now my shackles sit almost completely flat, the shocks are new the leaves are new and the bushes are fuked, but would bushes comtribute to the shackles not having a angle and laying flat, any help on this and my other drama would be greatly appreciated |
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| Author: | royce [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
they are shorter, does it sit higher now? |
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| Author: | 819FKA [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
no the EFS 1s are longer the the kings, but i dont nderstand if the EFS jobbies are brand new with load leaves how can the sit lower and cause the shackles to lay foward flat |
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| Author: | ajsr [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
sounds like the main leaf is shorter or has a larger arch. pics? standard shackles ? |
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| Author: | ajsr [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
819FKA wrote: no the EFS 1s are longer the the kings, but i dont nderstand if the EFS jobbies are brand new with load leaves how can the sit lower and cause the shackles to lay foward flat
you mean flat as in horizontal? |
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| Author: | alex [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
flat as in inverted?? i had the same problem when i went EFS so i moved my front shackel mount forward more or i guess you could fit longer shackels
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| Author: | joeblow [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
ajsr wrote: 819FKA wrote: no the EFS 1s are longer the the kings, but i dont nderstand if the EFS jobbies are brand new with load leaves how can the sit lower and cause the shackles to lay foward flat you mean flat as in horizontal? yep, the efs ones are longer than most other springs. |
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| Author: | lukes_89 [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
i was going to say longer spring pushing the shackle to sit on more of an angle |
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| Author: | ajsr [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
different springs move mounts or longer shackles not many other choices |
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| Author: | 819FKA [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
longer shackles wont fix it, i seem 2 think they r 2 soft and long, so ill put them in the rear and try my rear kings in the front |
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
How can longer shackles not fix it ? |
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| Author: | 819FKA [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
i did a quik paint sketch, red is shackle, black is leaf, wouldnt longer shackles pull the spring more foward???? |
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
No, the longer shackle will want to bring the angle down, I am not sure of lengths, but as you increase the shackle length, the angle will increase. Have a squiz at the link, it will help you when getting longer shackles to determine best angle. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
you could run some anti-inversion shackles??? 
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| Author: | shep [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
i had the same dramas with my lwb i could get it to do this just by pushing on the car, or just by getting ball to sit in it. 
longer shackles fixed the problem, if you use caster wedges you steering will remain ok. 
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| Author: | 819FKA [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
yeah they are all rear shot though this is on the front of my car, i already have 2 inch ext shackles i have been advised that the spring rate is way to soft so ill try my kings in the front and efs in the rear |
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| Author: | chris_mac [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
same thing happened in my car when i had busted bushes at the front (completely too soft bushes), check with new bushes |
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| Author: | shep [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
they may be rear shots however a spring is a spring and i couldn't be bothered taking photos of my front for ya. just like you probably should have mentioned the extended shackles in ya first post.
if you had of put a photo up in the first place i wouldn't have wasted 15 min looking for the photos that i posted. 
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
shep wrote: if you had of put a photo up in the first place i wouldn't have wasted 15 min looking for the photos that i posted. Like you've got anything better to do   
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| Author: | shep [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
Fatzook wrote: shep wrote: if you had of put a photo up in the first place i wouldn't have wasted 15 min looking for the photos that i posted. Like you've got anything better to do i could have been looking at porn or eating food.
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
More info would have bought about a much different result, doh. |
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| Author: | 819FKA [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
my apologises for not taking photos in the dark, but i did leave out the bit about the shackles woops |
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| Author: | slyvan1 [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
in my ruf the front shackles are extended, the mounts are standard except drilling rear mounts 20mm mill back and up. I used king springs hd 2 inch lift. after driving my shackle where flipping over. much the same as the picture drawn. making zook hit bumpstop coming down hills. just wondering any solutions. the front mount doesn't look like it can be moved very far forward only bout an inch. |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
move the front forward or replace your bush's |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf Dramas |
remount your shackle/spring hangars or longer shackles. |
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