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ZookZilla96

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Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 8:58 am Posts: 229 Location: Noosa Sunshine Coast
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Hey guys. I've got a 96 coily. Will have a 4age 1.6ltr in my zook soon. Also doing vitara diffs and reduction tcase gears(6.5's). Anyone ever run 33's with this type of set up. I've got 50mm suspension and 50mm body but it's going another 30+mm higher aswell. Any opinions??
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hooki

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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1785 Location: perth, WA
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ZookZilla96 wrote: Hey guys. I've got a 96 coily. Will have a 4age 1.6ltr in my zook soon. Also doing vitara diffs and reduction tcase gears(6.5's). Anyone ever run 33's with this type of set up. I've got 50mm suspension and 50mm body but it's going another 30+mm higher aswell. Any opinions??
Vitara diffs? IFS? 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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hooki wrote: ZookZilla96 wrote: Hey guys. I've got a 96 coily. Will have a 4age 1.6ltr in my zook soon. Also doing vitara diffs and reduction tcase gears(6.5's). Anyone ever run 33's with this type of set up. I've got 50mm suspension and 50mm body but it's going another 30+mm higher aswell. Any opinions?? Vitara diffs? IFS? 
I think he means Vitara ratios in coily diffs.
Sorry mate but you will need chromo CV's to run 33's on a coily. But unfortunately nobody makes them yet.
You should stick to 31's, or swap the entire front diff assembly for a WT sierra diff with chromo CV's. (read: Heaps of work!!)
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Fatzook wrote: hooki wrote: ZookZilla96 wrote: Hey guys. I've got a 96 coily. Will have a 4age 1.6ltr in my zook soon. Also doing vitara diffs and reduction tcase gears(6.5's). Anyone ever run 33's with this type of set up. I've got 50mm suspension and 50mm body but it's going another 30+mm higher aswell. Any opinions?? Vitara diffs? IFS?  I think he means Vitara ratios in coily diffs. Sorry mate but you will need chromo CV's to run 33's on a coily. But unfortunately nobody makes them yet. You should stick to 31's, or swap the entire front diff assembly for a WT sierra diff with chromo CV's. (read: Heaps of work!!)
Whoa, not much of this makes sense. Both posts.
Coily = high pinion = trouble with finding any ratios to suit. Its a coily!
I would keep your lift as is, get transfer gears with a sierra case. leave diff gears stock, and fit 33's with front unlocked.
I have run 33's for ages, thrashed, never done a front axle or cv. Unsure if coilys have the same size cv's.?
I run 33's with 3" lift. Alltogether. But my diffs are adjusted to suit, moved 25mm forwards etc, major work on a coily.. So you may have to use a hammer for clearance.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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BlueSuzy wrote: I have run 33's for ages, thrashed, never done a front axle or cv.
Awesome!!
Now have you seen a coily CV? Not the same as a WT. Not as strong either.
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BlueSuzy

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 Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:52 pm |
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I did say : Unsure if coilys have the same size cv's.?
If not, 31's it is, or soft driving on 33's..unlocked..
Even 31's would be pushing it..
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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Fatzook wrote: Now have you seen a coily CV? Not the same as a WT. Not as strong either.
Fatzook, I have seen the difference in shape between WT and coily CVs, but what exactly makes a standard WT CV stronger.
Also, Can you get Cro-Mo CVs for Jimny - I have heard people run Jimny CVs in their coilies?
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BlueSuzy

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jimny cv's are puny, to go with the puny axles. 1.3 sierra's are bigger/older/stronger.
But put a 1.3 cv next to a lux one.. the 1.3 looks puny!
And the list goes on.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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you can do a timmy and run a 50mm BL and sagy ass springs.... it's low thats for sure
but timy don't kid yourself there's like 2" over all in your zook and 33s.... 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Reubs wrote: Fatzook wrote: Now have you seen a coily CV? Not the same as a WT. Not as strong either. Fatzook, I have seen the difference in shape between WT and coily CVs, but what exactly makes a standard WT CV stronger. Also, Can you get Cro-Mo CVs for Jimny - I have heard people run Jimny CVs in their coilies?
You CAN get chromos for a JIM. Parana sell them. At $2k a set, i'd just be running 30's. 
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ZookZilla96

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Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 8:58 am Posts: 229 Location: Noosa Sunshine Coast
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ill see what the future brings. yer im getting 5.12 vitara centres, WT Tcase for reduction gears 6.5:1's. my 31's get a flogging and its never failed. if shit brakes i have a few mates with coilies so i can get a couple of spare parts. yer chromo's are nice and exspensive for a daily driver.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
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i recon joe can make them
after he makes portals for vits
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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ZookZilla96 wrote: ill see what the future brings. yer im getting 5.12 vitara centres, WT Tcase for reduction gears 6.5:1's. my 31's get a flogging and its never failed. if shit brakes i have a few mates with coilies so i can get a couple of spare parts. yer chromo's are nice and exspensive for a daily driver.
I run 6.5's with 3.7 diff gears, and onroad its great with 33's..
5.12's you will be doing 80kmh at full revs! (guesstimate)
You will have 3.9? atm. Dont change your diff gears.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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31zook wrote: you can do a timmy and run a 50mm BL and sagy ass springs.... it's low thats for sure but timy don't kid yourself there's like 2" over all in your zook and 33s.... 
I should measure between my stock bumps again..
Edit* Nah i have about a 3" lift body/spring.not including tyres.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:25 pm |
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how are you going to put the vit gears into a coily diff?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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shep wrote: how are you going to put the vit gears into a coily diff?
Easy, cut them up, put them in.
Or
Run them backwards. If that is possible.
There is no other way in the high pinion front, unless you get a low pinion, and completely change all the steering arms. Which will have to be custom.
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shep
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BlueSuzy wrote: shep wrote: how are you going to put the vit gears into a coily diff? Easy, cut them up, put them in. Or Run them backwards. If that is possible. There is no other way in the high pinion front, unless you get a low pinion, and completely change all the steering arms. Which will have to be custom.
exactly 
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ZookZilla96

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Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 8:58 am Posts: 229 Location: Noosa Sunshine Coast
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Cheers for all the feedback.
Blue Suzy... might just leave my diff centers alone and see how they handle it with abit more power. Buying a w/t sierra fr parts soon. Pulling the 4AGE motor out of it and sliding the necessary components into mine plus a w/t tcase for reduction gets later down the track!!
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BlueSuzy

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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:31 pm |
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33's will probably still rub in your guards without the diffs being moved.
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31zook
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and also, if you lock in your hubz with 33s they will break trying to mount a kerb.....
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Ridge
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 942 Location: Brisbane
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you will want to take the body off if your going to stick a 4age in. you will need new engine mounts, gearbox mount, and transfer mounts.
What do you plan to do with the sump? it is in reverse to a sierra, you will either have to push the front diff way forward (7 -8") or try and reverse it or bash it in.
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Fatzook

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Ridge wrote: or bash it in.
 Rough bastard
Can't usually bash them in enough, because the oil pickup is in the deepest part of the sump.
Cut and shut only 
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Ridge
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Fatzook wrote: Ridge wrote: or bash it in. Rough bastard Can't usually bash them in enough, because the oil pickup is in the deepest part of the sump. Cut and shut only 
im gently on the ute,
rough at work though steel has no feelings
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