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Author:  zooky08 [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  ben t kit/gearbox question
maby a stupid question :lol: ok yesterday i pulled my gearbox out of my suzuki sierra to get a new clutch put in it, as i got it out of under the car, i notice that the gearbox had a ben t adapter plate bolted to it.

so im wondering what would be the reasson for this, i need to get a new clutch and i dont want to get a wrong one if the gearbox isnt a sierra gearbox, is there some kind of code on the clutch. or is there a code on the gearbox so i can find out wat it is, my friend said it looks like a sierra gearbox. if thats the case, whats the reason for the ben t plate

much appreciated
Author:  Crunched [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:09 pm ]
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Pics? Sure you aren't talking about the dust/water cover? How thick is this thing?
Author:  shadowman55 [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:14 pm ]
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zooky08 wrote:
maby a stupid question :lol: ok yesterday i pulled my gearbox out of my suzuki sierra to get a new clutch put in it, as i got it out of under the car, i notice that the gearbox had a ben t adapter plate bolted to it.

so im wondering what would be the reasson for this, i need to get a new clutch and i dont want to get a wrong one if the gearbox isnt a sierra gearbox, is there some kind of code on the clutch. or is there a code on the gearbox so i can find out wat it is, my friend said it looks like a sierra gearbox. if thats the case, whats the reason for the ben t plate

much appreciated


Do you mean the thin plate (1-2mm) that goes inbetween the bell housing and the engine at the top? If yes than no, its not a bent adapter plate. Not sure what it's actually called though

Sam
Author:  zooky08 [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ben t kit/gearbox question
no its not the thin plate that goes behind the flywheel im pritty sure its a ben t adapter plate it is 6mm thick

heres some pics
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Author:  Crunched [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:33 pm ]
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Meh, probably had a 1.6 at some stage in it? (It is a 1.3 in it now right?)

Regardless, count the splines on the gearbox and make sure you get a clutch to suit.
Author:  zooky08 [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:40 pm ]
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yea its a 13ba in it
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:47 pm ]
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Did the bottom bolts bolt up?? Because where the countersunk bolts are, thats where 1.3's bolt up. No if/buts/nothing.

Pics of back of motor needed! And proof of g13ba!
Author:  shep [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:52 pm ]
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i reckon you are gunna have a g16 :D
what does the engine number start with?
Author:  Crunched [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:53 pm ]
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I'm with these guys, either that or those bottom bolts aren't done up, in which case you need to get that sorted. Take that adapter plate off if it's a 1.3.
Author:  zooky08 [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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well my car has go alot of grunt more then i thought it has beats my friends sierra :) ill go get some pics of motor bluesuzy
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:56 pm ]
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shep wrote:
i reckon you are gunna have a g16 :D
what does the engine number start with?

Going to be funny if he thought his 1.3 went like a dog, and its a 1.6 :lol:
Author:  SuziBlu [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:12 am ]
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:woohoo: great score if it is. shhh don't tell ya mates, just keep baggin them for having weak as piss cars.
Author:  zooky08 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ben t kit/gearbox question
the plate is bolted to the gearbox by alen key, two big bolts on both sides bolt to the engine, and the to long bolts you get with the kit are bolted on the back of motor

pics on request
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Author:  finlay113 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:49 am ]
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above the top left gearbox bolt on this pic (approx and inch). is a flat tab that will have a casting number in it. g16 g13 etc
Author:  finlay113 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:49 am ]
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above the top left gearbox bolt on this pic (approx and inch). is a flat tab that will have a casting number in it. g16 g13 etc. that engine number looks as though someone has stanmped it in themselves
Author:  jdk81 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:52 am ]
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zooky08 wrote:
the plate is bolted to the gearbox by alen key, two big bolts on both sides bolt to the engine, and the to long bolts you get with the kit are bolted on the back of motor

pics on request
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Looks liek the engine number has been ground off and new number stamped on.
Numbers shouldnt be so wonky.
Author:  SuziBlu [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:56 am ]
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second to last number % looks like the original number is still partly visible.
Author:  SuziBlu [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:57 am ]
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Get the pics off the net.
Author:  zooky08 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:05 am ]
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some onne has stamped SYB on that tab :S
Author:  jdk81 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:35 am ]
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Looks like someone put a g16 in it, ground off the engine number and ID tags, then stamped the old engine number on it and probably destroyed the original g13ba engine from it.
Author:  zooky08 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ben t kit/gearbox question
strange thing is that the engine looks exsactly like a sierra engine, i looked on the compliance plate thingy and the engine number is different to the one on the engine, this is confusing. could it be a 1.3l from a early suzuki swift
Author:  bagnkat [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:12 am ]
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I reckon it's a 1.6l that's been restamped. As someone said the stamping looks dodge, and the back of the engine doesn't look like a g13ba. Attached is a photo of the g13ba I pulled out of my '98 coily. It's the best photo I could find. If you expand the photo and take notice of the areas I've marked, then compare them to your photo, I reckon it's obviously not the same.
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:21 am ]
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DODGY!!!!

Original stamps are perfect and inline...

She is a g16a. it may of been restamped because they do look almost exact same. Except for those mounting tabs. haha


Have a look at the grinding marks! Could of least made them neat!
Author:  Crunched [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:22 am ]
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Saves you having to get it mod plated. I've seen dodgier.
Author:  zooky08 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:52 am ]
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my mouts are pritty much the same as that motor. is the 1.6l carby motor look any thing like a sierra motor or does it look completly different.

heres a cleaner pic of the number. the bottom mount under the number as been grinded away a bit Image

here is some pics of the engine if thats any help
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Author:  BlueSuzy [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:55 am ]
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Unsure on the carb, but it could even be a 1.3 head on a 1.6 block. Many have been done before.

Suzuki would never have a bodgy double '5' stamp like that :lol:
Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:06 am ]
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BlueSuzy wrote:
Unsure on the carb, but it could even be a 1.3 head on a 1.6 block. Many have been done before.

Suzuki would never have a bodgy double '5' stamp like that :lol:


Doesn't look like my Sierra carby...
Author:  royce [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ben t kit/gearbox question
the other block specific differences between 1.3 and 1.6 are teh mounting bosses in front of the oil filter, emasure them and compare with a 1.3
Author:  zooky08 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:20 am ]
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the head is a 1.6 head, i know that. and i replace the carby with a 4k corolla carby
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:23 am ]
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did u put the head on?
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