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| Author: | CairnsZook [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aftermarket gauges |
Hi fellas, I'm in the market for some fully-sic gauges for my new big-block Baleno motor 
I had some aftermarket gauges hooked up to the old Sierra engine, but I broke the temp sender and couldn't get the oil pressure sender out of the old block. Can anyone recommend some good oil pressure and engine temp gauges for a G16B? 
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| Author: | boostedbrick [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
Repco has 2" gauges for $30 at the moment. If that sale is on down your way. I getting some of these tomorrow. Or supercheap has 25% off calibre gauges, $52 for water and oil guages. |
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| Author: | oozuk [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
Autometer gauges are good quality but a little pricy |
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| Author: | bazook [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
speco are good, i don't trust vdo i had them and when i put the clutch in the temp would change |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
x2 speco. love mine! |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
bazook wrote: speco are good, i don't trust vdo i had them and when i put the clutch in the temp would change
I have heard of that, never seen it tho..
Should be fine for auto's then???
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
oozuk wrote: Autometer gauges are good quality but a little pricy
X2. I have $3k worth for cammo  Thats only 7 or 8 guages 
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
Fatzook wrote: oozuk wrote: Autometer gauges are good quality but a little pricy X2. I have $3k worth for cammo Thats only 7 or 8 guages Does it go yet???
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
steak_knife wrote: Fatzook wrote: oozuk wrote: Autometer gauges are good quality but a little pricy X2. I have $3k worth for cammo Thats only 7 or 8 guages Does it go yet??? Only in my dreams
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| Author: | tombutt [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
u must have a active imagination then mrfat |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
tombutt wrote: u must have a active imagination then mrfat
So must you. We're still yet to see the mythical creature you call a girl friend
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| Author: | PJ.zook [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
I run Speco gauges in zook, but the bastards get moisture behind the lenses and the water temp has already been warrantied once, and now its reading too high again. |
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| Author: | CairnsZook [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
What sort of temperature range should I be looking for? The last one I had barely moved, even when the engine was working really hard. Is the best place for the oil pressure sensor where the stock one is? Or can I put it somewhere else so I still have the dash light? |
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| Author: | fordem [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
Temp readings will vary with the location of the sensor - in the normal location (under the thermostat) look for 80~100 area (175~212). For oil pressure - on a 1.3 there should be a second port just to the left and above the oil pressure switch, you can use that if you can get the plug out, or you can use a T and connect it to the oil pressure port. If you're using mechanical gauges (ie not electric) toss the nylon line that comes with the gauge and get yourself some 1/8 copper - mount the T somewhere secure and wind a couple of loops in the copper line between the T and the engine to allow for engine movement & vibration. |
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| Author: | brendan [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
fordem wrote: For oil pressure - on a 1.3 there should be a second port just to the left and above the oil pressure switch, you can use that if you can get the plug out, or you can use a T and connect it to the oil pressure port.
[u] If you're using mechanical gauges (ie not electric) toss the nylon line that comes with rhe gauge and get yourself some 1/8 copper - mount the T somewhere secure and wind a couple of loops in the copper line between the T and the engine to allow for engine movement & vibration. NEVER do this! it puts way to much leverage on the nipple going into the block. how do i know? been there done that twise! first time was brass it broke off. 2nd time i used a steel nipple and that broke. i fixed this problem by getting a hose made up and mounted the sensoros on the body. never had a problem. temp, mine would run at 85c all day everyday, on the beach in summer 85c, driving on a winters night 85c. i would only use autometer gauges, after all you will fine them in 99% of race cars ect only pic i could find 
ideas for mounting 
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| Author: | PJ.zook [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
I have used a T piece setup for oil pressure for a couple of years now, works fine. |
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| Author: | brendan [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
well it didnt work for me, and i would rather not take that risk again |
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| Author: | fordem [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
brendan wrote: fordem wrote: For oil pressure - on a 1.3 there should be a second port just to the left and above the oil pressure switch, you can use that if you can get the plug out, or you can use a T and connect it to the oil pressure port. [u] If you're using mechanical gauges (ie not electric) toss the nylon line that comes with rhe gauge and get yourself some 1/8 copper - mount the T somewhere secure and wind a couple of loops in the copper line between the T and the engine to allow for engine movement & vibration. NEVER do this! it puts way to much leverage on the nipple going into the block. how do i know? been there done that twise! first time was brass it broke off. 2nd time i used a steel nipple and that broke. i fixed this problem by getting a hose made up and mounted the sensoros on the body. never had a problem. Read the damn post will ya - doesn't it say to mount the T somewhere secure and wind a couple of loops in the copper line to allow for engine movement? Now - be honest - did you do THAT? Or did you just bung a nipple into the block and screw the T onto the nipple? If you mount a brass T directly to the block and then hang a honking great sender on the end, the chances of the brass nipple (between the T and the block) fatiguing & breaking because of the vibration are pretty good - as you already found out. Feel free to use a hose, but if you do either use braided stainless steel or run a ground wire between the T and the chassis or the oil pressure light won't work. |
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| Author: | brendan [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
fordem wrote: brendan wrote: fordem wrote: For oil pressure - on a 1.3 there should be a second port just to the left and above the oil pressure switch, you can use that if you can get the plug out, or you can use a T and connect it to the oil pressure port. [u] If you're using mechanical gauges (ie not electric) toss the nylon line that comes with rhe gauge and get yourself some 1/8 copper - mount the T somewhere secure and wind a couple of loops in the copper line between the T and the engine to allow for engine movement & vibration. NEVER do this! it puts way to much leverage on the nipple going into the block. how do i know? been there done that twise! first time was brass it broke off. 2nd time i used a steel nipple and that broke. i fixed this problem by getting a hose made up and mounted the sensoros on the body. never had a problem. Read the damn post will ya - doesn't it say to mount the T somewhere secure and wind a couple of loops in the copper line to allow for engine movement? Now - be honest - did you do THAT? Or did you just bung a nipple into the block and screw the T onto the nipple? If you mount a brass T directly to the block and then hang a honking great sender on the end, the chances of the brass nipple (between the T and the block) fatiguing & breaking because of the vibration are pretty good - as you already found out. Feel free to use a hose, but if you do either use braided stainless steel or run a ground wire between the T and the chassis or the oil pressure light won't work. your post wasnt very clear hence i added my opinion |
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| Author: | trity [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
sorry for the thread dig but just want some info on which water temp gauges to buy? Mechanical or Electrical and also how do you install them? I want to install a water temp and oil temp in my sierra 1.3 but never done it before? Any help will be much appreciated? |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
Electrical. Wire it to come on with the ignition and you will need a temp sender hooked up somewhere in the system before the radiator. |
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| Author: | bakerboy [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
some flashy digital gauges, although our location wouldnt suit most road cars as it uses the air vents 
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| Author: | TheOtherLeft [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
How do the Calibre gauges go, are they accurate? I'm very wary of SuperCrapAuto branded products. |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
I have the same gauges in my zook. Haven't had an issue and they've been through some solid wheeling in the past 6months. Would buy them again. |
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| Author: | bakerboy [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
TheOtherLeft wrote: How do the Calibre gauges go, are they accurate? I'm very wary of SuperCrapAuto branded products.
quality has improved leaps and bounds, for example the tools are sourced from the same mob as stanley |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
Calibre is a decent brand. SCA us what you dont want. |
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| Author: | bakerboy [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
brendan wrote: i would only use autometer gauges, after all you will fine them in 99% of race cars ect
bit like the 5" tacho?
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
bakerboy wrote: TheOtherLeft wrote: How do the Calibre gauges go, are they accurate? I'm very wary of SuperCrapAuto branded products. quality has improved leaps and bounds, for example the tools are sourced from the same mob as stanley That may be so, but from my experience with alot of stanley products ( hand tools mainly) their quality has dropped significantly in the past 5 or 6 years. |
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| Author: | bakerboy [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
for the average guy they are fine, they have a lifetime warranty if i was buying work tools though id spend the coin on the better brands |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aftermarket gauges |
bakerboy wrote: for the average guy they are fine, they have a lifetime warranty
if i was buying work tools though id spend the coin on the better brands Life time warranty doesn't mean shit to me. When the crappy casting of your cheap tools costs you weeks off work becuase it snapped applying moderate tension to a bolt, resulting in the fractured tool imbedding itself into your hand you'll learn very quickly that cheap tools with a life time warranty REALLY aren't worth it. Just my 2 cents. 
Anywho, I've never used the calibre guages, but they look a little too cheap/ rice for my liking. Same as the 'Drift' brand from Autobarn. Autometer still make the best guages IMO.
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