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Author:  alien [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:40 am ]
Post subject:  Sierra without Steering Dampener?

Hey all

have had a recurring steering problem where it wouldnt return to center on cornering, but only the last 1/4 or so of a turn... front wheel bearings were a little loose, which helped but didnt remove the problem.

I've since undone the steering dampener (stock one) and its driving way better now - no issues at all. The dampener is incredibly hard to compress but easy to open up so i'd say thats a fair sign its shagged.

Which brings me to the question: do i really need the dampener? i hit a few kurbs in my testing and didnt notice any more kick-back from the wheel than normal? is there something im missing? lol

Author:  89_tintop [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:44 am ]
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I ran my sierra without one for a while and really did not notice any difference.

So IMO yup don't need to run one

Author:  Damo [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:49 am ]
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Im running without one and every now and then you'll hit something that sets up an oscillation. Given the choice I would run one.

Author:  alien [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:53 am ]
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yeah might order one monday and just run without till it arrives.

tell you what though - running without makes the steering way lighter =P

Author:  Highway-Star [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:58 am ]
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alien wrote:
Hey all

have had a recurring steering problem where it wouldnt return to center on cornering, but only the last 1/4 or so of a turn... front wheel bearings were a little loose, which helped but didnt remove the problem.

I've since undone the steering dampener (stock one) and its driving way better now - no issues at all. The dampener is incredibly hard to compress but easy to open up so i'd say thats a fair sign its shagged.

Which brings me to the question: do i really need the dampener? i hit a few kurbs in my testing and didnt notice any more kick-back from the wheel than normal? is there something im missing? lol



Not returning to centre is castor, I have castor wedges in my SJ and it self centres rather agressively... I like it :D

IMO Steering damper should be there, its part of design of the front suspension and steering.

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:51 am ]
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Coily's never had one. No brackets or anything.

I dont run one either, but i have vit ps.

Author:  alien [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:09 am ]
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highway-star - its returning to center awesomely now, enough so that if i let go of the wheel half way round a corner it straigtens up almost instantly and points me 45degrees straight off the road =P

anyone bought a new standard one before? how easy are they to compress and expand? my busted one is about 2-3kg to expand and about 15-20kg to compress with a nice rubber squealing sound on compression (just guessing).

just went for a long drive - 110km/hr and parking, reversing etc in carparks and its spot on now, handling feels so much better and i can feel the road much better through the wheel.

I'm hoping a standard dampener wont rob me of that feel.

Author:  jonno_racing [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:10 am ]
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BlueSuzy wrote:
Coily's never had one. No brackets or anything.

I dont run one either, but i have vit ps.


i run one, had the mount welded on.. stoped my head shake

Author:  zooky08 [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:06 am ]
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I had a busted damper and it use to rip the steering wheel straight out of my hands when i hit shit. Neally come close to breaking my wrist a couplee of times. So i think it would be best to run one imo. I just ordered a stock (gabriel) damper. About $55. It fixed every thing :)

Author:  whincup [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:08 am ]
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alien wrote:
I'm hoping a standard dampener wont rob me of that feel.


i just had a new one put on and i noticed a HUGE difference, although i had the front wheel bearings replaced and one was completely shagged, so the difference could have been that. IMO you wont notice a difference on-road between it being there, but offroad i think it will make a noticeable difference...

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:34 am ]
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http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/suzuki/s ... -kits.html

I want one O these.. :P

Like Mr Blue I'm not running one, vit P/s, but I can feel the start of the wobble when I hit bump's, so going to get one O them..

Author:  royce [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:39 am ]
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steak_knife wrote:
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/suzuki/samurai/steering/steering-stabilizer-kit-for-cross-over-steering-kits.html

I want one O these.. :P

Like Mr Blue I'm not running one, vit P/s, but I can feel the start of the wobble when I hit bump's, so going to get one O them..


These are a good thing, dont fit NT though

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:41 am ]
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:? I got a Mig... :roll:

Author:  royce [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:42 am ]
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by NT I mean NT diff, not wide enough :)

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:45 am ]
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:P Sully's fine then..

I got your meaning as soon as I clicked " Submit" :roll:

Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sierra without Steering Dampener?

Aron, I ripped mine off a few years ago wheeling at zigzag - It was so good afterwards that I never refitted it.

Unnecessary IMO if your steering is set up right.

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:13 am ]
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X2.

Don't bother replacing it IMHO.

PS they have 50/50 valving - should be no harder to compress or expand.

I've built a heap of cars without them.

Author:  alien [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sierra without Steering Dampener?

haha ok i'll leave it off until i have a chance to try it offroad... if i dont like it offroad ill chuck one back on, if i cant tell the difference i'll leave it off =)

Author:  ajsr [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:50 am ]
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Mine doesnt run one

Author:  alex [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:11 am ]
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ajsr wrote:
Mine doesnt run one


x2

Author:  Moph [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:28 pm ]
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Mine has one there for looks ... its completely buggered and can be pushed in/out really quickly with little force. Doesn't seem to be a problem. Have held out on replacing it because all the aftermarket ones I've seen are RTC which I don't need, and haven't chased down an original.

Author:  alien [ Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:12 pm ]
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suzistore do an original - looks like genuine, probably maruti:

http://www.suzistore.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=844

not cheap though!

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