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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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hi all just a quick question on my rock lights. i have wired up a set in my old lux before,a set on my current lux and now finally finished the set in my zuk.
Have all been 55w spotties.I have 3 under my zuk,fitted yesterday and tested them but then tonight i noticed they work with no headlights on,park lights on or hi beam on but not while on low beam???
i have got power to my 30amp relay(30) from the fuse block and a 15amp fuse i think in the fuse block under the bonnet,earthed as normal and 87s out to the lights,picked up power from in the cab somewhere to the switch then out to relay again.
No worky on low
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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can you not take them entirely off the light circuit so theyre just on their own switch? Even take them off IGN so they stay on when you shut the engine off (handy during recovery etc)
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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sorry,let me add to this that i didnt have a test light,i wired them way back in july but only fitted lioght yesterday so im guessing as i wrote this n half thought about it that the wire i found under the dash n didnt fully use must be low beam.
was not intentional as i normally just go a power wire,which this one is until i have lights on low beam,haha works on every other setting
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Wire them up ass about and you'll be fine..
Sierra headlights go negative when on.
I run my rocklights through a relay connected to the parkers and when night wheeling rarely use the headlights...
On the rear of the driver's side headlight locate the red wire with silver bands around it,
if you have a 12V electrical tester check that this wire is positive when the headlights are on and it then peculiarly goes
to negative when highbeam is on.
Clip a Scotchblock onto this wire with a piece of wire in it long enough to reach back to where you are going to
locate the relay, and attach this wire to terminal number 85.
This will be the "trigger" for the relay, the relay will always have a positive feed to the normal trigger,
and live going to the "switch" of the relay for the auxiliary spots,
so the relay will click closed only when the earth terminal gets a negative feed
(as it will normally be positive... "d'oh! my head hurts Marge!").
Take a wire off the battery's live terminal and with an inline fuse holder connect it to terminals 86 and 87,
these are the normal trigger and the input terminal of the relays switch.
Connect a wire from terminal 30 - the switched output of the relay - and connect this to the positive wire of your spotlights
, the spotlights should also be earthed to either the vehicles body or chassis, or an existing earth point
(probably the best idea I've found).
Hmm, and that's it... when you put your headlights on the wire coming from the Scothchblock attached to the red wire
with silver bands will be positive, so the relay will not click closed.
However when you "flash" your headlights or switch to mainbeam,
that red wire with the silver bands will drop from positive to negative, then, as the relay now has an earth it
will click closed and switch the positive feed to the spotlights on...
and your spots will come on so you can flash other roadusers, or when you're offroad in the dark, etc...
Ok?
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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are you using different relays jas??
when i wired up my spotties for the front of the zuk i went 30 from positive on battery
86 loops with it with a short wire onto 30 on relay
87 to lights
and 85 went from high beam at headlight to switch in cab then to the 85 pin
all my problem is with my rocklights right now is that my wire to sognal/trigger relay becomes earth not power while ever im on low beam yeah?
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sickzuk1

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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:04 am Posts: 289 Location: Cairns, Queensland
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Just out of curiosity... Where do you mount them? I cant think of a spot that wont get damaged?
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
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sickzuk1 wrote: Just out of curiosity... Where do you mount them? I cant think of a spot that wont get damaged?
x2... anyone got pics...?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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i think damage is inevitable... you just buy spare lights.
if you never do anything fast then theyre way less likely to get damaged, speed + rocks would spell disaster though.
Also - ive noticed more and more LED rock lights, but hate them - they just don't throw the light as far as a traditional globe.
something like these would be pretty awesome: http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaAU ... Series.jsp even if its a glass lens.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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il get some pics of mine.pretty dodgy setup on my zuk as there was just no where to really put them whereas my hilux has them all tucked up in little spots where they cant get hit.
im sure ill break one eventually
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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appsie wrote: are you using different relays jas??
Standard 4 or 5 pin relays....
Wire it up like in my above post and it'll work.
I have my lights mounted to the floor under the front seats where the floor steps up from the footwell and as close to the chassis as I could get them.. No damage after 12 months.
Also have another pair on the front bar.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Why not use LED lights instead of the 55w battery burners?
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RIKSTR

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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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Fatzook wrote: Why not use LED lights instead of the 55w battery burners?
Do you know where we can get some 
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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RIKSTR wrote: Fatzook wrote: Why not use LED lights instead of the 55w battery burners? Do you know where we can get some 
Any good autoelectricial has a massive catalogue of ADR approved LED lights for ALL applications, thats your best bet..
Or the Rigid Industries LEDs from Snake Racing are insane, you could probably cook dinner with them
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Jccck wrote: Or the Rigid Industries LEDs from Snake Racing are insane, you could probably cook dinner with them
I'll have a few of them for sale soon... Brand new never used and a LOT cheaper than Snake.
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sickzuk1

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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:04 am Posts: 289 Location: Cairns, Queensland
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The LED's can cop more of a flogging generally as well can't they?
Why not buy an LED strip and put it all along the bottom..
It won't light up as much as the 55W but still enough to work with.
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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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use these i have them in my boat and it lights the boats floor up real well and you can cut them into different numbers
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sickzuk1

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Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:04 am Posts: 289 Location: Cairns, Queensland
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Can u upload some pics of them in your boat? 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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PanterA used ebay LED ebay strip lighting on his flag pole & it's like a light sabre, they're able to be chopped down into lots of 3 LED. The amount of even light that it throws is pretty impressive.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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RIKSTR wrote: Fatzook wrote: Why not use LED lights instead of the 55w battery burners? Do you know where we can get some 
Ebay is full of LED work/flood lights, i am looking through them now, check these out in 4WD accesories -
http://cars.shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nk ... m270.l1313
Most of them are in OZ, and very cheap too ! 
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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want33s wrote: Jccck wrote: Or the Rigid Industries LEDs from Snake Racing are insane, you could probably cook dinner with them I'll have a few of them for sale soon... Brand new never used and a LOT cheaper than Snake.
50" light bar?
After a couple little ones for the front of a dirtbike too
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Jccck wrote: want33s wrote: Jccck wrote: Or the Rigid Industries LEDs from Snake Racing are insane, you could probably cook dinner with them I'll have a few of them for sale soon... Brand new never used and a LOT cheaper than Snake. 50" light bar?  After a couple little ones for the front of a dirtbike too
A 50" bar is just a stupid amount of light.... A 20" is more than enough..
I only want a pair of 6's for my zook and a 20 for the pootrol.
Will be doing the smaller ones for bikes. LED's are the biggest/best thing to happen to motorcycles for 50 years!
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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want33s wrote: Jccck wrote: want33s wrote: Jccck wrote: Or the Rigid Industries LEDs from Snake Racing are insane, you could probably cook dinner with them I'll have a few of them for sale soon... Brand new never used and a LOT cheaper than Snake. 50" light bar?  After a couple little ones for the front of a dirtbike too A 50" bar is just a stupid amount of light.... A 20" is more than enough.. I only want a pair of 6's for my zook and a 20 for the pootrol. Will be doing the smaller ones for bikes. LED's are the biggest/best thing to happen to motorcycles for 50 years!
I'm bringing in another brand that has higher output than the Rigid ones. I have 2 here (40 LED Euro pattern, and 60LED flood pattern) that measure 570mm and 800mm long. Both are going onto the ute. Thats about 17000 lumens from 2 lights 
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tombutt
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1917 Location: brisbane
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im still trying to decide which ones i wanna put on the vitara
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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want33s wrote: Jccck wrote: Or the Rigid Industries LEDs from Snake Racing are insane, you could probably cook dinner with them I'll have a few of them for sale soon... Brand new never used and a LOT cheaper than Snake.
 Pick me!!! 
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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Jas,ill see how i go ive always just wired up relays the way i explained before and theyve worked.im guessing i was just unlucky in what wire i chose for the switch this time lol
Fat, i would of went LED strips or something, i actually started looking into it but allready had some of the 55w laying around that will do for now.It looks pretty good and is quite bright
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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Mitchell Bros 4x4 and more in Sydney are also a supplier of the Ridgid Industry LED light bars and duallys. Better price and service then snake too
We ran a 30" light bar at willowglen and the light they throw is just amazing.
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atari4x4

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haha, shameless free plug El Bucketo... 
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Bucket

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atari4x4 wrote: haha, shameless free plug El Bucketo...  Thought it was about time I posted again, and thought I might aswell mention it.
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