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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Ok so ive got a 1999 2.5 V6 Grand Vitara but have no idea on the fluid quantities it needs.
Does any know the engine, gearbox, t/case, front and rear diff and radiator fluid ammounts and recomended types?
Cheers B4T
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Last edited by Built4thrashing on Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:31 am |
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Front & rear diff's are .9 each & Epx80/90
Eng I think is 5.6 with a filter, start with 5 tho cause I could be wrong, I use castrol Protec 10w30, seam's to keep the chain's SSSSHHHHHH.
Transfer is I think 1.9, could be 2.4 tho..80/90
Auto's have no set service schedule, it's simply a check condition, I have only had to replace once in a high km car that tow's..
If I remember I'll look it up tomorrow for the exact amount's....
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:49 am |
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Thanks heaps for that. What about the manual box?
The biggest problem ive found so far is finding Radiator hoses. there are no after market ones listed in any books the parts places have.
B4T
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Built4thrashing wrote: Thanks heaps for that. What about the manual box?
The biggest problem ive found so far is finding Radiator hoses. there are no after market ones listed in any books the parts places have.
B4T
Don't think you will get em non gen for a while, only ever replaced em from physical damage, have some car's with 260k + on em..
The man box take a bit but can't remember exact amount
I think it's 3.8, I run vmx 80 in em, but the diesel's 80/90 cause of the stupid idler gear..tis noisy with Vmx..
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:39 pm |
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Just looked in the GV owners manual -
Fuel - 56L SWB - 66L LWB
Coolant - 8.0L
Engine Oil - 5.5L
Transmission Oil - 2.6L Man - Auto 2.5L
Differential Oil - 1.0L Front - 2.2L Rear
Transfer - 1.7L
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:35 am |
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sweet as Mac Bear. Know where i can get an owners manual from....Didnt have one when i bought it.
B4T
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:36 am |
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Oh and steak_knife im talking about the older GV's not the new ones.
B4T
will edit post title
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:42 am |
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Built4thrashing wrote: Oh and steak_knife im talking about the older GV's not the new ones.
B4T
will edit post title
 That change's everything..
Mac daddy's one the money, but the eng's 5.6..
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:45 am |
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MacBear wrote: Just looked in the GV owners manual -
Fuel - 56L SWB - 66L LWB Coolant - 8.0L Engine Oil - 5.5L Transmission Oil - 2.6L Man - Auto 2.5L Differential Oil - 1.0L Front - 2.2L Rear Transfer - 1.7L
For the pan, but if the valve chest or the torque converter losses any fluid you will need around 8lt's..
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:14 am |
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steak_knife wrote: Built4thrashing wrote: Oh and steak_knife im talking about the older GV's not the new ones.
B4T
will edit post title  That change's everything.. Mac daddy's one the money, but the eng's 5.6..
Just checked again, definitely says 5.5L... but, Suzistore said it would be closer to 6L, once the oil filter has filled up... its a damn shame they dont make 6L oil packs, have to buy 2 just to fill it up... 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:24 am |
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Just buy it by the 20 ltr like i sometimes do...........
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:27 am |
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I downloaded the complete service manual for the SQ series off the net some where for freeeeee. When I get home I will see if I can find a link to it.
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:30 am |
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:52 am |
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gregdixon wrote: http://www.alterterra.ru/index.phtml?lu=garage/sgv/index
try this. Not the same place I remeber getting mine from but should be the same stuff
They are only for the SQ416 & SQ420... not the SQ625...
Opps... on closer inspection... some mention SQ625, but i have a feeling it will be like the Haynes Sierra/Vit service manual, much more sierra then vit... 
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:23 pm |
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They are the proper suzuki service manual nothing like those crappy haynes manuals.The reason it states the SQ416 is because it is the first in GV model numbers ie SQ416 SQ429and SQ625. The same bodies but just with the G16, J20 a H25A engines respectivly which are all listed in the manual.
I cannot get the link to work from here( bloody russians). What is the best way to upload 58mb of PDF so everyone can get a copy???
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:42 pm |
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gregdixon wrote: They are the proper suzuki service manual nothing like those crappy haynes manuals.The reason it states the SQ416 is because it is the first in GV model numbers ie SQ416 SQ429and SQ625. The same bodies but just with the G16, J20 a H25A engines respectivly which are all listed in the manual.
I cannot get the link to work from here( bloody russians). What is the best way to upload 58mb of PDF so everyone can get a copy???
Ahhh ok... yeah i cant get them to work either...
Maybe Alien could host them on his website... wouldnt mind a copy of them on CD 
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flatcat_auz

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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 am Posts: 154 Location: Nth of Syd.
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The copies of there service manuals on the net have missing sections the bulk of manual is there but there are some parts that are missing. Got them over 2yrs ago now, no idea where but you could try pirate net or other file sharing services.
And it is 5.5 ltrs (engine oil)which is fucked cause I use fully synthetic and it aint cheap and near impossible to find 1ltr top up bottles.
Also replace your air filter with a K&N. No probs with dust sand mud etc.Over 50,000kms on it.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 5.6....
Some take 5.4, some 5.5, some 5.6..
I've even put 5.8 in one.
watched an apprentice put 7 in before he saw the oil running out the sumpm plug hole..
use the dip stick, that's what it's there for...
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:55 pm |
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did an oil change on mine as the old oil was making the motor noisy. Un known how long it had been since its last change. I used 20w50 coz thats all i had here. man it made a difference to how much chain rattle it had. Put 5ltrs in it coz i didnt know how much to add. will top it up later.
What engine oil should i be using?
B4T
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:59 pm |
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:09 pm |
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And on the penrite site
Crankcase HPR 10
or EVERYDAY FULL SYNTHETIC 5W-50
or SIN 5
Service Refill Capacity: 5.5* Litres
Manual Transmission TRANSAXLE 75
Service Refill Capacity: 2.7 Litres
Automatic Transmission ATF DX-2
or ATF DX-3
Service Refill Capacity: 2.5 Litres
Differential HYPOID 80W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 2.2 Litres (see note 15 below)
Power Steering
POWER STEERING FLUID
or ATF TOP UP
4WD Transfer TRANSAXLE 75
Service Refill Capacity: 1.7 Litres
4WD Differential
HYPOID 80W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 1.0 Litres
Brake
BRAKE FLUID 525
Radiator
PREMIUM ANTI FREEZE ANTI BOIL
Service Refill Capacity: 8.2 Litres (see note 854 below)
NOTES
* Includes Oil Filter
15 Rear differential.
854 Total flush required.
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nissvit
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 184 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:50 pm |
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Built4thrashing wrote: The biggest problem ive found so far is finding Radiator hoses. there are no after market ones listed in any books the parts places have.
B4T
the top hose of a VN/ VP commodore if cut in the right spot will give you both the top & bottom hoses for a SQ625...
costs about $17.00 from ripco....
just line up the two hoses so they fit best over the new commo one and cut.... simple.
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:48 pm |
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if I remember Macbear I will burn them to cd and bring them along to the trip on the 28th. haven't noticed any missing bits though. It has engine,transission,chassis,body,electrical and general diagnostics in it. i have read this thing like a book and it has all the info I need,
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:01 am |
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I used Castrol Portec 10w30, kept it quite, but I flushed EVERY service..
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:01 am |
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Oh, forgot....5.6lt's
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:30 am |
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nissvit wrote: Built4thrashing wrote: The biggest problem ive found so far is finding Radiator hoses. there are no after market ones listed in any books the parts places have.
B4T
the top hose of a VN/ VP commodore if cut in the right spot will give you both the top & bottom hoses for a SQ625... costs about $17.00 from ripco.... just line up the two hoses so they fit best over the new commo one and cut.... simple.
Thats awsome.....I'll go to supercrap tomorrow and get a couple as they having a sale.
Cheers B4T
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:32 pm |
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Built4thrashing wrote: did an oil change on mine as the old oil was making the motor noisy. Un known how long it had been since its last change. I used 20w50 coz thats all i had here. man it made a difference to how much chain rattle it had. Put 5ltrs in it coz i didnt know how much to add. will top it up later.
What engine oil should i be using?
B4T
I would say 20W is a bit to thick at cold start for a GV...
Well the owners manual says preferred oil is 10W30, but i think that is for milder climates... my Suzi mech put in 15W40 Semi-Synth, its good, but i would prefer an easier flowing 10W oil, as i can get timing chain rattle on cold mornings... so next oil change, i will be asking for a 10W40 Semi-Synth or even a 10W50, which gives the oil more stability at higher temps, in a Semi Synth, which is good when out 4wheelin and the engine is working hard... hope that helps... 
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:09 pm |
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TheOtherLeft
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 818 Location: Sydney
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MacBear wrote: ...my Suzi mech put in 15W40 Semi-Synth, its good, but i would prefer an easier flowing 10W oil, as i can get timing chain rattle on cold mornings... so next oil change, i will be asking for a 10W40 Semi-Synth or even a 10W50
You get your mechanic to change your oil???????
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flatcat_auz

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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 am Posts: 154 Location: Nth of Syd.
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Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 fully synthetic. 04GV 5.5ltrs.
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