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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | How much play in a rear uni? |
I reckon my rear uni joint (pinion end) is shagged... one of the uni pins has about 4mm of play in it (the other side has none) - this would explain minor vibrations on decelerating at speeds below 80km/hr and acceleration above 80km/hr, right? lol here's a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbiWPYLP83c |
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| Author: | royce [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
cant see the vid but fuck yes 4mm is too much, if you can feel play its too much |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
royce wrote: cant see the vid but fuck yes 4mm is too much, if you can feel play its too much
x2!! Most of the aftermarket uni's you buy have play as soon as they are installed. I have hardy spicer joints in mine now, no play! |
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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
haha oh well, it had a hard life that uni.... thats the factory rear uni joint (as far as im aware) and it survived me on my P's with a welded rear, through to the spoa conversion having no anti-wrap for over 9 months... i've had it nearly 10 years =) haha JRzook - where'd you get that brand from? |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
JrZook wrote: royce wrote: cant see the vid but fuck yes 4mm is too much, if you can feel play its too much x2!! Most of the aftermarket uni's you buy have play as soon as they are installed. I have hardy spicer joints in mine now, no play! i have ripco brand (GMB) with no play, dropped pin's on one & it had lot's of no play.. 
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| Author: | JrZook [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
alien wrote: haha oh well, it had a hard life that uni.... thats the factory rear uni joint (as far as im aware) and it survived me on my P's with a welded rear, through to the spoa conversion having no anti-wrap for over 9 months... i've had it nearly 10 years =) haha
JRzook - where'd you get that brand from? They should be like ~35ea, search driveline services or hardy spicer. You should be able to find a dealer near you. |
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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
yup - found one... im confused though because they list 2 different unis for 1300 sierras.. 1981 and 1985 both share "RUJ-1795" and theres another listing on 1985 for a "K5-A557" - which is strangely the same as early vitara. Unfortunately their parts list doesnt let me identify which one i need as they've measured different reference points on the 2 items, and both reference points match my current uni joint! lol |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
K5-A557 has external c clip's, the other should be internal.. |
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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
ah-hah - so RUJ-1795 it is then, mine's got no clips on the outside. Where'd you see that? |
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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
found this in a search too: http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... pic&t=9574 |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
alien wrote: ah-hah - so RUJ-1795 it is then, mine's got no clips on the outside. Where'd you see that?
mine are external, just changed 6 of the bugger's & have another 6 to do in the spare shaft's... |
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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
ouch! how'd you flog them out??? what year is yours too? Just by comparison mine's a '92. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
alien wrote: ouch! how'd you flog them out???
what year is yours too? Just by comparison mine's a '92. With a hammer... 
mine's n/t, 87 me thinks.. can't tell you what I paid... 
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| Author: | MrRocky [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
had the opposite prob, my rear uni seized completley causing mass vibrations never had that before mine usually flog out every 6mnths on the rear due to the 3/4 setup forcing them to work at un-natural angles. |
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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
steak_knife wrote: alien wrote: ouch! how'd you flog them out??? what year is yours too? Just by comparison mine's a '92. With a hammer... mine's n/t, 87 me thinks.. can't tell you what I paid... by flog out i meant destroy... as in, how did you destroy them to warrant replacing them? ...or is the answer still "with a hammer" ? lol Still, fitting and removing unis with a hammer is a pretty impressive feat =) haha |
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| Author: | BJPK [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
alien wrote: steak_knife wrote: alien wrote: ouch! how'd you flog them out??? what year is yours too? Just by comparison mine's a '92. With a hammer... mine's n/t, 87 me thinks.. can't tell you what I paid... by flog out i meant destroy... as in, how did you destroy them to warrant replacing them? ...or is the answer still "with a hammer" ? lol Still, fitting and removing unis with a hammer is a pretty impressive feat =) haha alien thats the easiest way to replace them. all you need is a hammer and vice. you should try it ur self before just taking it to suzistore 
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| Author: | alien [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
nar not going to suzistore =) haha but i dont have a vice... my local mechanic is happy for me to steal one of his hoists and use his tools though, thats what i've been doing of late when messing with my suspension etc. |
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| Author: | alien [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
OK, got RUJ-1795 joint - getting the old one out took an hour of hammering, squeezing in the vice, more hammering, some swearing, more hammering etc... turns out the original unis don't like coming out! new one went in like a charm though, interestingly my joint has grooves for external circlip, and the uni has internal - so i used both. seemed to work well. drives HEAPS smoother now, kinda wish i did it earlier! Best part - cost me $31 and a batch of jerky for the workshop time =D |
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| Author: | MrRocky [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
u can use my workshop if you give me a batch of jerky, its been a while the missus isnt being very forthcoming
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| Author: | alien [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
hahaha wrong. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
Just the usual, mud & probably 15yr's old.. 1.6 & a heavy right foot off road probably doesn't help either.. Oh, 2 hammer's & a pair of cir clip pliers's....big block hammer to get the ole one's out & a lil ball to fit the new one's..
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| Author: | alien [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
i like that my new uni has a grease nipple on it too... that should help extend its life for sure. oh yeah - and got mine from veale - its a TOYO brand (made in japan) with the same part number (RUJ-1795). |
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| Author: | crewsy [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
I just got some from Veale today, will get stuck into it tonight... wish me luck
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| Author: | alien [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
good luck getting the old one out!!! haha dont forget to mark the spline and shaft so you put it back in phase afterwards too! dont use a paint pen either - use something to scratch the steel, cos paint pen will wear off. |
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| Author: | crewsy [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
alien wrote: good luck getting the old one out!!! haha
dont forget to mark the spline and shaft so you put it back in phase afterwards too! dont use a paint pen either - use something to scratch the steel, cos paint pen will wear off. Lol I already used paint pen.. But it hasn't come off yet. After taking the shaft out it seems like there is absolutely no play in the uni's and they also say Koyo on them, so they must have been replaced not too long ago! I jiggled the flange on the transfer case side and it seems as though there is a huge amount of play in it 
Anyone know if this is normal? it feels way too clunky to me though |
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| Author: | alien [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
can you make a vid and post it up? Is the car in neutral, first? reverse? |
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| Author: | crewsy [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
was in first and just uploading the vid now |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
alien wrote: good luck getting the old one out!!! haha
dont forget to mark the spline and shaft so you put it back in phase afterwards too! dont use a paint pen either - use something to scratch the steel, cos paint pen will wear off. Already permanently marked, on the male it has a dot punched into the end of the spline & the female has a dot where the boot sits.. |
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| Author: | alien [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
mine arent, but theyre custom shafts =) |
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| Author: | crewsy [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How much play in a rear uni? |
ok here goes http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z73/ ... G_0386.mp4 |
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