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Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

I'm up for changing my rear diff oil and am wondering what weight oil I should use.

I have an airlocker as well.

The factory manual says 80W90 GL5, I've just phoned ARB and they say:

Normal use: Shell diff oil (SAE90)
Mobilube GX90

Heavy use: Shell Spirax 85W-140 (GL5)
Mobilube GX140 (GL4)

Now, I have Vitara gears (5.12) that are a bit noisy at certain speeds, probably due to age.

Would going a heavier weight diff oil be beneficial to longer life etc? I've run these gears for 3+ years and it sounds the same so is not getting worse. I'm thinking about going the Shell Spirax 85W-140. Do you guys recommend others?

What are the implications of running heavier weight oil? - Increased resistance due to a thicker oil being spun around???

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

My personal preference/belief would be standard grade oil if in cooler climates, as heavy oil can give drive resistance until warmed up.
But I would add a diff oil conditioner/additive to help with the noise.

Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

christover1 wrote:
My personal preference/belief would be standard grade oil if in cooler climates, as heavy oil can give drive resistance until warmed up.
But I would add a diff oil conditioner/additive to help with the noise.


Yes I will be adding the Nulon stuff as well.

The change in the heavier gear oil is only the hot temperature viscosity, from 90 to 140 so I suppose it'll take longer to get warmed up.

Author:  Bruce [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

I have alwyas used 85/140 in my diffs with air lockers. Never had a worry.

Author:  11_evl [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

Go the heavier one, any extra weight down low helps sierras

Author:  BUZOOKA [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

doesnt really help so much as i have a navara .. but i run lsd oils in both my diffs rear lsd also in my transfer and gear box.. its bit thicker and while cold is a smidge harder to shift .. but i feel it protects my cogs and stuff a bit better so i can live with a stiff shift of a morning

Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

11_evl wrote:
Go the heavier one, any extra weight down low helps sierras


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Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

Do people still recommend using LSD oil in airlocked diffs? Something about the additives being better for the seals???

The ARB list standard oils.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

i run normal castrol oil in mine as per arb's specs.

Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

atari4x4 wrote:
i run normal castrol oil in mine as per arb's specs.


Does brand matter as ARB only recommend Shell or Mobil? (assuming I'm using the same grade)

Author:  tanshi [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

i doubt brand will really make much difference.

i run standard epx90 in my airlockers

Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:45 am ]
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Would going fully synthetic be worth it, eg CASTROL SYNTRAX 75W-90?

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

TheOtherLeft wrote:
Would going fully synthetic be worth it, eg CASTROL SYNTRAX 75W-90?


Not IMO. And if you are doing regular diff oil changes, you would just be throwing your money away.

Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Using heavier weight oil in airlocked diff

Thanks all,

I've settled on Castrol EPX 80W90 plus some Nulaon diff additive.

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