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Author:  benji [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  alt upgrade

changing to the falcon 110 and have some questions and yes i already searched..... do you have to change water pump to swift ?? whats the difference ??? and what year swift, do i need to buy, if so ????

Author:  mnemonix [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:01 am ]
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Water pump stays the same.
Just change the falcon alternator pulley so you use the sierra pulley.

Author:  whincup [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:59 am ]
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http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... 29&start=0

Author:  want33s [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:12 am ]
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mnemonix wrote:
Water pump stays the same.
Just change the falcon alternator pulley so you use the sierra pulley.

That is OK if you like squeeling belts.....

Author:  benji [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:16 am ]
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read that whincup, am i missing something ??? either use a vitara pulley or a swift w/p and pulley but what year swift

Author:  benji [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:17 am ]
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any idea on the water pump jas ???

Author:  whincup [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:17 am ]
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ohh just read that properly myself, doesnt exactly specify what pulley is needed does it... :? does anyone know?

EDIT: pretty sure you need a swift pulley, unsure of year though...

Author:  benji [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:20 am ]
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i think the swift/ barina is the go, but there must be differnt ones surely

Author:  whincup [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:14 am ]
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only thing stopping me from doing the upgrade is i dont know how to mount a thermo fan. wiring is no issue to me, easy enough to work out...

Author:  royce [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:22 am ]
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use vitara pulleys

to mount a thermo fan you use a thermo fan mounting kit funnily enough :)

swift pulley may require a new pump, different bolt patterns

Author:  needmorelift [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:51 am ]
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theres some swifts out there that have the 4 bolt pulleys. grab these pulleys are they are the multi rib type and fit directly onto a g13ba and align perfectly with the falcon 110amp alt :)

Author:  Richo [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:22 am ]
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coily's come out with a multi groove pulley as standard as i did this conversion on mine, so either the pulley or the water pump off a coily would fit i guess or is this the same as a barina??

Author:  Richo [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:24 am ]
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whincup wrote:
only thing stopping me from doing the upgrade is i dont know how to mount a thermo fan. wiring is no issue to me, easy enough to work out...

why do yo need the thermo to do the conversion, is it a room factor?

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:29 am ]
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stock 1.3 fan don't fit on the swift/barina water pump...
On mine I had an adaptor turned up by a mate.
multi V belts are far superior,
and make it easier for power steering addition, too,
as twin pulleys off most swift/barinas are bolt on...
some motors have a 5 bolt pulley which dont fit tho

Author:  whincup [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:30 am ]
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royce wrote:
to mount a thermo fan you use a thermo fan mounting kit funnily enough


they have kits to mount them? and here i was thinking it was all fabricating your own little brackets... :oops:

Richo wrote:
whincup wrote:
only thing stopping me from doing the upgrade is i dont know how to mount a thermo fan. wiring is no issue to me, easy enough to work out...

why do yo need the thermo to do the conversion, is it a room factor?


i really havent researched much into it, so ive most likely misread somewhere, but as far as im aware the factory fan doesn't work with the new belt. assuming the vitara one would if its the same pulley, but id rather switch to thermos if i had to change the fan...

Author:  foolsp33d [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:26 am ]
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Vit waterpump pully on a leafy sierra waterpump gives the right multi rib needed to match the Barina/swift crank multi rib pully. the Alt. pully stays original ford equipment.
LEFT ONE IS SWIFT. NOTICE THE LARGE CENTER HOLE AND SPACING VS STOCK SIERRA ON RIGHT!
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Coily owners.. as with everything... your situation may be different.

Author:  whincup [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:12 pm ]
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easy enough. how about the alternator bracket, how exactly does that need to be modified?

Author:  foolsp33d [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:28 pm ]
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Pretty easy once u got all the bits... Just needs a redrill to fit the ford bolt.. 14mm I think.. Could b wrong..

Author:  want33s [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:32 pm ]
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Run a 10mm drill through the bracket and use the Ford bolt with the Alt.

Author:  11_evl [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:46 am ]
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Hardest thing is finding an alt. Most wreckers I go to they are missing

Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:49 am ]
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foolsp33d wrote:
Pretty easy on,e u got all thenits...


foolsp33d wrote:
you REALLY cant construct a legible sentence can you!?


pot meet kettle, he's also black.... :lol:

Author:  foolsp33d [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:54 am ]
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Goddam mobile phone technology! That will teach me to post during smoko eh!

My kettle is white.. dunno about yours.. the black ones tend to not work :S

Author:  whincup [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:31 am ]
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11_evl wrote:
Hardest thing is finding an alt. Most wreckers I go to they are missing


last time i went to the local wreckers there were several EF alternators...

Author:  benji [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:16 am ]
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just about done, can anyone clear up wich wire go where on the alt or doesnt it matter ?????

Author:  benji [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:41 am ]
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anyone ????????

Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:47 am ]
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Dude, give people more than 25 minutes to reply, the people that have done the conversion may not be online right now...

Author:  neofitou [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:05 pm ]
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I fited the gti altinator and water pump, a bottom pulley from a combo van. Power steering from a vitara.

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Author:  royce [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:11 pm ]
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benji wrote:
anyone ????????


Pains me to say this but theres 700 threads on this and thats been covered numerous times and reading this thread would have covered everything youve asked

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=5529

its even in a special section to make it easier to find

Author:  atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:19 pm ]
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but he's read that one already... :roll:

Author:  benji [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:27 am ]
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royce wrote:
benji wrote:
anyone ????????


Pains me to say this but theres 700 threads on this and thats been covered numerous times and reading this thread would have covered everything youve asked

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=5529

its even in a special section to make it easier to find


17. Plug three socket connector into Falcon alternator

it might just be me but i cant seem to get the round three pin sierra plug
into the square two pin socket of falcon alt............

next time someone asks you might be able to tell them that the larger yellow wire from the falcon plug should be conected to the one from sierra that show 12v when ignition is on. as the 12v go to the diodes and turn the alt on. and the other to are joined together for the charge light on the dash.

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